30 BB shove from the SB Stars 50/r/a

Bond18 · #1 03-20-2007, 01:53 AM

SB is a total unknown, i think i was just moved, no stats.
SB: 4400 before posting
Hero in BB: 4600

Hero holds X X
Blinds 75/150, we're about 10 minutes after the add on.

Preflop: Folds to SB, SB shoves, hero?

Whats your calling range? WTF in general?

jonnyd · #2 03-20-2007, 01:59 AM

some people cant readjust after the rebuy period so i probably call AKs JJ+... also i know its stupid but it probably depends on how many buyins deep i am in this for my range..

Bakes · #3 03-20-2007, 02:06 AM

how do you get in so many of these goofy ass situations i would be surprised to see one once a day

Bond18 · #4 03-20-2007, 02:14 AM

IDK, this one was the weirdest in a while.

Some time ago on p5's there was a thread where some guy open shoved like 30 BB's and bodogari snap called Kx (i think 4 or 5) and was like "nobody ever shoves here with any kind of hand, this is a standard call." The guy had like Qx and ari held.

konrad · #5 03-20-2007, 02:24 AM

AA, KK, AK suited, maybe QQ and JJ

Bond18 · #6 03-20-2007, 02:56 AM

I think you guys are thinking way way to tight here so far.

jonnyd · #7 03-20-2007, 03:32 AM

maybe this is something i need to do a bit more, or atleast entertain the thought of.. but i just dont like calling off 30bb with a weak K (though i dont play nearly the volume of bda) or with any speculative hand.. i've never been big on making big calls to flip, always feel better as the aggressor.

is my thinking too black and white or am i missing something?

LearnedfromTV · #8 03-20-2007, 03:50 AM

prob 88ish+, AQ/AJ+. I'm a little more leery of the aces than the pairs b/c AK makes a lot of sense. Well, nothing makes any sense but he's done this and he has to have something, so...

I think I call AQ tho; people will show up w/ Ax/KQ/44 etc.

Pondy · #9 03-20-2007, 04:31 AM

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I think you guys are thinking way way to tight here so far.

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Why? you have an M of 20, no need to go out on a coin flip at this stage. In 2 hands time you'll be on the button.

AA, KK, AK, QQ.

yellowdoyle · #10 03-20-2007, 05:27 AM

Pondy,

The goal isn't to avoid going out at this stage, but rather to gather chips.

Bond,

I think I may call as low as TT and AJs+. But I tend to "look people up" for better of worse.