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Old 03-07-2007, 01:57 PM
Daut44 Daut44 is offline
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Default Paul Wasicka\'s AA fold in HSP

Not sure if everyone saw this, but I found it very interesting.

Basically, Wasicka limped AA utg, then pretty much the entire table limped. It was a 7 way limped pot, flop came T64 2 hearts. sb checked, Todd brunson led from the bb for 3/4 pot or so and wasicka folded. he did not have the A hearts. Just so happened that brunson had KJhh, but greenstein had a set behind him.

What do you guys think of this fold? My immediate reaction was that I would definitely at least flat call one bet or maybe make a small ish raise then see what developed behind me, folding if any sick action came. But I think this is a pretty smart fold that avoids a lot of danger. My gut still tells me that if you play this smart its +EV to stay in the hand but its such a difficult spot when youre oop vs 5 other people and facing a bet from the BB who might have some random 2 pair.

just curious what others think cause ive talked to 2 very good players who i regard highly about it, one said at least call other said he loved the fold.
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Old 03-07-2007, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: Paul Wasicka\'s AA fold in HSP

I fold.

On a related note, why the [censored] does everyone slowplay everything both preflop and on the flop in HSP? I'd love to play that game and just 3bet the [censored] out of the table, and play flops aggressively before slowing down a bit.
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Old 03-07-2007, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: Paul Wasicka\'s AA fold in HSP

I love the fold, you have no idea what you're up against so there's no reason to fall in love with your acees. Best case, you turn an ace, and even then you still don't know where you are if Brunson bets again.
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Old 03-07-2007, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: Paul Wasicka\'s AA fold in HSP

well generally when the SB/BB lead into a field of 7 players he can either beat one pair or has a very big draw.
good players with deep stacks don't generally lead out in that spot with just top pair.
now it just so happens that alot of the play on HSP has been sub-par, however in general if i was in a tough game in the same spot i would probably fold the AA as well.
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Old 03-07-2007, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: Paul Wasicka\'s AA fold in HSP

But WHY is Wasicka folding AA on television? The word that you can fold AA should not be out!
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Old 03-07-2007, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: Paul Wasicka\'s AA fold in HSP

I think it was a fold. He got unlucky that it was limped around because if you have AA UTG in that game, I'd probably limp also. You never know when Sammy is going to jack it up to 16k in a limped pot. As for flop play, it was probably the right fold because the other players are liable to hold any 2 cards.
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Old 03-07-2007, 02:15 PM
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Default Re: Paul Wasicka\'s AA fold in HSP

On another note, and I don't want to hijack the thread, but does anyone remember why Farha lashed out at Aba a few episodes ago and told him he doesn't belong in a casino? I really despise Farha, and I wouldn't be too upset if he died.
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Old 03-07-2007, 02:20 PM
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On another note, and I don't want to hijack the thread, but does anyone remember why Farha lashed out at Aba a few episodes ago and told him he doesn't belong in a casino? I really despise Farha, and I wouldn't be too upset if he died.

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Why would you want someone who's willing to provide so much action with such bad poker ability to die? He could call me whatever he wanted to as long as he kept reloading for $100k...
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Old 03-07-2007, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: Paul Wasicka\'s AA fold in HSP

Three words: reverse implied odds

He's gonna have a hard time navigating this flop. With so many aggressive players who could have so many hands, he's only going to get action when he doesn't want it. And if he does happen to have the best of it, he'll have to give a bunch of free/cheap cards (as sticking out some big bets is suicide).

I like the fold. The UTG limp, not so much.
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Old 03-07-2007, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: Paul Wasicka\'s AA fold in HSP

Since this thread is already here, did aba play the TT hand well ?
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