yellowsub throws a sick min-raise my way

LegallyBlind · #1 03-02-2007, 03:23 AM

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
3 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Button: $600
Hero: $694
BB: $769.25

Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Button raises to $24, Hero raises to $84, BB folds, Button calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($174, 2 players)
Hero bets $120, Button raises to $240,

i don't have much history with sub. he seems to be a very active preflop three-bettor and opens a lot from LP. He rarely has called my three-bets regardless of position (but again, not too many hands with him).

So on the flop, his minraise is sick because of stack sizes and on this flop there probably isn't alot i can call with. So i figure its a great spot to make me make a decision for my stack, without committing his stack.

I dunno if sub has any kind of read of me. But assuming i'm just some random 3/6 peon to him, what shoulud i do?

captainwacky · #2 03-02-2007, 03:34 AM

fold? I don't really think sub does this too much just to [censored] with your head or anything. You're rarely going to be ahead. As an aside: if you know that someone is capable of putting it in anytime postflop, don't you think there's less value in 3 betting marginal hands oop? I've played a decent amount with jeff and think that there's really not a lot of reasons for this, even though it's 3 handed.

Ansky · #3 03-02-2007, 03:52 AM

This hand is 100% about the dynamic that exists between you two and what you think he is capable of doing this with. Honestly there is a very slim chance anyone can answer this question better than you can.

yellowsub · #4 03-02-2007, 05:18 AM

i think u played this meh, folding is kinda exploitable, but shoving is bad and calling (which i think u did) isnt so hot either. i guess dont rr or bet flop?

CopTHIS · #5 03-02-2007, 05:37 AM

I think you'd need some real history/reads to go any further with that hand. Folding isn't really that exploitable.

billyjex · #6 03-02-2007, 08:22 AM

i would probably push

i remember from playing you your stats look real nitty, like 16/12, but you still 3-bet enough

so sub is probabyl just playing off that and figures he can get a real cheap bluff here, i dunno, i just cant see him playing a big hand here vs a player like you but who knows what your actual dynamic is

also if you want to continue with the hand i cant see doing anything but pushing, calling is meh and hes going to give up his bluffs and just take free cards to beat you

pot is big enough its ok to just take it down

folding is boring also

lucksack · #7 03-02-2007, 09:52 AM

I would call and re-evaluate turn.

restrikt · #8 03-02-2007, 09:55 AM

Call flop, check turn, fold to a reasonable turn bet.

I think sub checks behind turn a lot if he's behind.

Trix · #9 03-02-2007, 11:19 AM

Depends how wide he 3bets/cont bets from the blind doesn´t it..

nopepper · #10 03-02-2007, 11:24 AM

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Call flop, check turn, fold to a reasonable turn bet.

I think sub checks behind turn a lot if he's behind.

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this line seems wrong, however i play it this way alot. still seems wrong