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02-22-2007, 11:08 PM
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There\'s Nothing to Post About
That's what I've been told about this hand. But, well, I'm bored so I'll post it.
Charged up live 40-80 Hold Em game. A tight player raises under the gun. Three people coldcall. I call in the cutoff with 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. The BB, a solid but not over-the-top aggro pro, also calls. The flop comes 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Not bad. BB checks, UTG bets, one caller, I raise. It's folded to the BB who now takes the action to three-bets. UTG then caps the betting. The limper folds and I call to the obvious frustration of the UTG player. The BB also calls. The turn brings the 10[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. BB now leads out, UTG calls, I call. The river brings the 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. BB bets, UTG mucks in frustration. Your action. Jeff 
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#3
02-22-2007, 11:30 PM
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Re: There\'s Nothing to Post About
You've rivered most of his range. 75s makes up only three combos. Raise-call.
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#4
02-22-2007, 11:34 PM
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Re: There\'s Nothing to Post About
What in his range still bets the river? What do you think he puts me on after cold-calling preflop, raising the flop and calling the cap, then just calling the turn? If he reraises, what percentage of the time would you say I am being pushed any money?
Jeff
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#5
02-22-2007, 11:42 PM
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Re: There\'s Nothing to Post About
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What in his range still bets the river? What do you think he puts me on after cold-calling preflop, raising the flop and calling the cap, then just calling the turn? If he reraises, what percentage of the time would you say I am being pushed any money? Jeff [/ QUOTE ] Probably out of my element here, but a couple of thoughts. Couldn't he put you on A7 of diamonds, or thereabouts? More specifically for his hand, his line seems much more like a set than 75 to me. Wouldn't 75 check the turn to the capper, to let you guys put bets in the pot before raising? I'd raise the river.
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#6
02-22-2007, 11:46 PM
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Re: There\'s Nothing to Post About
the board's not paired, there's not a flush. the guy has represented nothing but an overpair and has given us no reason to believe anything different. raise so he can make a crying call or 3bet with TT. don't get me wrong, i suck and may be missing something. but i'm raising, calling a 3bet or capping depending on my mood, and dragging the pot a reasonable amount of the time.
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#7
02-22-2007, 11:50 PM
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Re: There\'s Nothing to Post About
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the board's not paired, there's not a flush. the guy has represented nothing but an overpair and has given us no reason to believe anything different. raise so he can make a crying call or 3bet with TT. don't get me wrong, i suck and may be missing something. but i'm raising, calling a 3bet or capping depending on my mood, and dragging the pot a reasonable amount of the time. [/ QUOTE ] BB just called preflop...
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#8
02-22-2007, 11:57 PM
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Re: There\'s Nothing to Post About
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Couldn't he put you on A7 of diamonds, or thereabouts? [/ QUOTE ] If he puts me on this, what purpose would be served by betting the river? [ QUOTE ] Wouldn't 75 check the turn to the capper, to let you guys put bets in the pot before raising? [/ QUOTE ] I would think so. But the capper showed obvious frustration with my immediate call of two more cold which was clearly not an act. So perhaps the BB figured there was a greater than normal likelihood of the turn being checked through. And, if it was an act by the UTG player, maybe he can get three bets in. FWIW, I was convinced I was against a set on the flop and turn. The river was where one could see being a bit concerned. Jeff
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#9
02-23-2007, 12:00 AM
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Re: There\'s Nothing to Post About
I highly doubt I am going to get three-bet here by a set. After all, if I had a lower set, why would I not raise the turn if I was going to raise. Why would I raise the river when what would be a scary card for me comes out? Also, if I 4-bet him, that would not be a cap and I could be raised again.
Maybe you play in games that are much more loose aggro than I do, but if I get reraised I am dragging this pot somewhere in the realm of never against this opponent. Jeff
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#10
02-23-2007, 12:53 AM
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Re: There\'s Nothing to Post About
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i must have misread something, because i can't think of any reason why this isn't a raise. the real question is what to do if 3bet. [/ QUOTE ] You lose if 3-bet and I don't think a human alive can fold. This is a call.
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