KK line check? NL50

[lsaw2]

No reads on villian he'd done nothing out of the ordinary.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP ($64.80)
Hero ($48.50)
Button ($124.20)
SB ($83.85)
BB ($14.75)
UTG ($38.60)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, K.
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3, 3 folds, UTG folds, MP calls $2.50.

Flop: ($7.25) 4, 5, Q (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $5, MP raises to $10, Hero calls $5.

Turn: ($27.25) 2 (2 players)
MP bets $12, Hero calls $12.

River: ($51.25) Q (2 players)
MP bets $39.8 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $91.05

Results in white below:
MP doesn't show.
Outcome: MP wins $91.05.

[M4in]

Bah :S

I dunno if I would even call that turnbet :S

Smells like QQ to me, river fold seems fine...

[lsaw2]

Villain showed 68o or something stupid afterwards then left.
Against most normal vilians no read I thought a fold was best.

[VPIP100]

Why not 3-bet flop?

[lsaw2]

Min raises make me go all wobbly. I dont understand them.

Fair point. I dont think I considered it at the time which probably isn't briliant. Was struggling to put him on a range.

[Phytopath]

This guy is crazy ballzy, most likely an ididot. You represented alot of strength and got played back at. It takes a real moron to play back at you like this unless he knows you are really weak tight, which I doubt he does.

I'd either raise the flop again to about 20ish and fold to more pressure.

[thac]

Yeah I'm definitely pumping this flop to 27 or something and calling a shove. If I'm not raising flop, I'm raising his weaksauce turn bet. He bets 40% of the pot and you just call.. I think you gotta make your decision there whether to push or fold.

[Smilin']

I'll assume board is rainbow....

I think your reaction to the flop minraise has to depend on what you think your image is. Namely, have you been cbetting a ton? I think we can classify Villain's hands into one of 3 categories:

1) a weak hand that thinks you're FOS and is trying to push you off your cbet;
2) a strong hand that thinks it's best and is trying to trap;
3) a draw that's trying to bluff you and price itself in at the same time.

Given the board and preflop action, I think (3) is less likely. So Villain probably has either nothing much, a set, or a good Q.

I like the flop call, and given your turn action I think the river is a fold (I wouldn't assume a 3 barrel bluff w/o a read). The question, I think, is whether you want to push the turn--you're really only afraid of 44 and 55 (QQ seems less likely given preflop). I'm not sure on this, but I think you're better off calling turn and calling most rivers (not a Q river) because the board is dry and you're WA/WB--that way you get value from top pair. If Villain checks river, I think you can usually value bet.

That was kind of a long ramble, but in the end my point seems to be that I like your line.

[lsaw2]

I'd been relying on my cbet occasional double barrel to take down all the pots I was playing. He hadn't done anythnig spectacular or out of line.

I agree I should have repoped flop but his min raise looks so strong. But I cant fold to a min raise nearly ever!