A guys v. girls sports debate

cognito20 · #1 02-14-2007, 07:20 PM

This is kind of in the spirit of a debate going on over in the Sklansky forum. I've been debating this one with some guys I work with, and we're split pretty closely on it. Theoretical basketball game: the Division I NCAA women's national champions versus a good but not great boy's high school team. By good but not great, I would say, oh, a 16-5 Class B New York State high school team (classes in NY are AA (largest), A, B, C and D) that wins its league, maybe its section, and goes out early in the state Class B playoffs. Who would win, and why? I'm thinking the NCAA women's champions in a pretty close game, as long as the high school team's success is due more to solid team play and not the presence of a Division I-bound star or two on the roster who could physically overwhelm the women. If you think the women would win, what caliber of boys' high school team would you think would be required to beat them, and if you think the boys would win, do you think an average WNBA team could take them out? Discuss.

--Scott

Miss Pink · #2 02-14-2007, 07:34 PM

I didn't realize how bad chicks are at sports if that would be a close game. Kind of funny actually.

Green Kool Aid · #3 02-14-2007, 07:36 PM

the uconn womens team with diana tuarasi and sue bird would beat the majority of high school teams with a girls ball.

cognito20 · #4 02-14-2007, 07:41 PM

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Why do you think that? Living in upstate NY, I can tell you that a typical sectional-contending Class B boys team (I'm thinking someone like Elmira Free Academy, for those of you who are familiar with the teams here) will have at least a couple of players who will play four years of college ball at the Division II or III level. They're not going to be at an athletic disadvantage to the women...at least their best players won't.

--Scott

g-bebe · #5 02-14-2007, 07:59 PM

If only I was American and knew exactly how good/bad the boys team you're talking about is (I do somewhat follow CBB), and if only I was a judge of basketball talent.

An educated guess? I' think I'd pick the boys, because they are the clear underdogs in this kind of matchup.

PokerFink · #6 02-14-2007, 08:12 PM

Hey cognito,

There was a long thread on this subject last Spring.

Your hypothetical matchup would probably be a good game, but I would give a small advantage to the women.

A very good HS boys team will beat any women's college team. For example, my HS won the Pennyslvania AAAA Championship last year. AAAA is the largest division. That team had two kids who are now playing significant time in DI this year as freshman. A HS team like that would simply be too strong and athletic for the women.

duracell · #7 02-14-2007, 08:38 PM

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A very good HS boys team will beat any women's college team. For example, my HS won the Pennyslvania AAAA Championship last year. AAAA is the largest division. That team had two kids who are now playing significant time in DI this year as freshman. A HS team like that would simply be too strong and athletic for the women.

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Sorry to hi-jack the thread, but PokerFink, are you perhaps from the Lower Merion area? As in, the two players you're talking about are Henderson and Ellington?

Back on topic, I think it would probably be a close game. I give the shooting advantage to the women's team, but the overall athleticism would go in favor of the HS team in my opinion.

NajdorfDefense · #8 02-14-2007, 08:55 PM

A good HS mens' team will beat a college women's team every time. Most HS starters on solid squads can dunk with the possible exception of the PG. They will have the speed, strength, height, and jump advantage likely at all positions and moreso on the bench.

I'm assuming the women have to use the men's regulation ball? Boys HS wins 9 of 10.

Any good college men's team would destroy a WNBA team.

PokerFink · #9 02-14-2007, 09:15 PM

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Sorry to hi-jack the thread, but PokerFink, are you perhaps from the Lower Merion area? As in, the two players you're talking about are Henderson and Ellington?

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Right area, wrong school.

Ellington and Henderson went to Episcopal Academy, a small private school. I went to Lower Merion High School. The two teams play occasionally before league play, but didn't last year (unfortunately).

The kids I mentioned are Garrett Williamson (St. Joe's) and Ryan Brooks (Temple). Williamson is playing really well, about 25 minutes per night. I saw a St. Joe's game the other night and he was in during crunch time for his defense. Brooks has struggled lately and his minutes are down, 7 per game.

duracell · #10 02-14-2007, 10:14 PM

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Sorry to hi-jack the thread, but PokerFink, are you perhaps from the Lower Merion area? As in, the two players you're talking about are Henderson and Ellington?

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Right area, wrong school.

Ellington and Henderson went to Episcopal Academy, a small private school. I went to Lower Merion High School. The two teams play occasionally before league play, but didn't last year (unfortunately).

The kids I mentioned are Garrett Williamson (St. Joe's) and Ryan Brooks (Temple). Williamson is playing really well, about 25 minutes per night. I saw a St. Joe's game the other night and he was in during crunch time for his defense. Brooks has struggled lately and his minutes are down, 7 per game.

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Yeah, I wasn't sure about the exact school. I know someone, who knew both Henderson and Ellington, that lives in Lower Merion. I'm about half an hour away from there myself.

Any HS basketball team with 2 D-1 caliber players I think could take just about any women's college basketball team.