Learning to Spew

[jk3a]

Villain in hand #1 is of the 30/20/3 variety. Very solid, thinking LAG. We don't have much history but my image should be standard TAG, nothing out of line. This is obv. an excellent card for him to 2-barrel given the situation and my line. I couldn't help but wonder after the hand was over if calling the turn is better if I think he's bluffing. I actually don't think many players would bluff off their last 100 or so into a 600 pot if I called the turn, but who knows.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $467.50
CO: $80
Hero: $427.30
SB: $388
BB: $713.40

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $14</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $46</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($96, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $66</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($228, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $169</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $315.3</font>.


Villain here is 24/12/3 and seems ok. Raises alot IP, but has a few leaks. This is the 2nd time I've 3bet him at this table and the first time he's called. My image should be on the snug side of TAG if he's paying attention. I think I can get called light on the flop here, but only a small portion of his range can call a shove. I think...

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $783.45
CO: $417
Button: $92.50
Hero: $396
BB: $429

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $14</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $50</font>, BB folds, CO calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($104, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $75</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($254, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in $271</font>

[Black winter day]

Hand 1, i'd raise flop.
You are getting action from a lot of worse overpairs and there are many cards that can kill it, any heart or any broadway basically.
On the turn it all comes down to whether you believe if he has an A or not.

Most decent players check turn in his position if they catch an A, since there is a little point in betting, so he could be either betting, knowing that you know that or bluffing.
Or maybe he is just betting cause he caught an A, who knows [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
Anyway, raise or fold, he will not bluff another 100 bucks on the river.

Hand 2 - Meh, if he is a thinking player, he will perhaps think that you have an overpair.A lot of guys can't fold 77 on that board.I actually think he has something like JJ-QQ and obv will not fold.

[RiverHebrew2]

Hand 1- raise flop. I think eh has AQ or AK on turn and won't fold. If you raise flop, you might get action from pairs like TT-QQ, or he could shove a FD. Ace either put him in the lead or killed ur action. Hand 2- I don't mind b/c he folds probably JJ and QQ here, his most likely holdings. Both hands, I would never play the turn like this tho.

[king_of_drafts]

Hand 1 is OK

Hand 2 is suicide

[jk3a]

anyone else?

[RunyonAve]

Hand 1 - Raise the flop to get action from worse over pairs.

Hand 2 - I think this is a terrible turn card to fire a 2nd bullet on and i don't think your going to get much to fold.

[jk3a]

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Hand 1 - Raise the flop to get action from worse over pairs.

Hand 2 - I think this is a terrible turn card to fire a 2nd bullet on and i don't think your going to get much to fold.

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If you had to make an educated guess, what % of the time do you think this guy is going to the felt after he calls the flop bet? 75%, 50%, 35%? Does a flop call here mean that he's never folding?

[RunyonAve]

What does the 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] do to the texture of this board that would effictively get villian to fold a hand that he's already called off like 25% of his stack with on the flop. AN overbet push that can very well be construed as a bluff to a typical villian makes me belive that you are not folding out 77-88-JJ-QQ, and hands like 99-1010-10J-910 are just letting you hang yourself.

[RustyJay]

On hand 1, I'm thinking big raise on the flop to take it down there - don'tlike the 2 hearts. Given u just called, I'm thinking muck on turn.

On hand 2, I don't get u'r play at all. Why not try a small-ball approach?

-RJ

[MychCumstien]

I don't really like either hand.

Hand 1- reraise preflop. If you feel obliged to slow play it and just call preflop, then snap him off on the flop after he leads out.

I don't like the all in raise on the turn at all. He could easily have an ace in this spot, and could have just fired a continuation bet on the flop with a hand like AK, AQ. If he has an ace, you just hanged yourself. Basically, the hands that beat you are going to call, and the hands you beat are going to fold, i.e. you'll only get called if you are beaten.

Ok, so hand 2, I'm not real sure where you're coming from on that one either. I don't mind the reraise preflop with KQ 5 handed, and I don't mind the continuation bet on the flop, but the turn bet is suicide. Are you trying to get him to fold a big hand? If he has any history on your play, i.e. if you make plays like this often, then calling is almost mandatory for the villain. I know you said that your play is on the snug side of TAG, but plays such as this beg to differ. If you've been playing TAG, then maybe (just maybe)he can lay down a hand like QQ, but not likely. Again, I think you are going to get called more often than you think/ like in this spot, and I think it borders on chip suicide.