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Old 01-30-2007, 07:29 AM
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Big NL game at the XXXXX Casino. Button opens for $500, BB pushes his stack of 25k, Button looks back at his stack, sees he has 30k - and then keels over. Dead. He will be pushing up the daisies for now on, the player never got to state his action before kicking the bucket.

Whats the ruling?

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Old 01-30-2007, 07:37 AM
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Treat it as an all-in for $500 .. ?
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Old 01-30-2007, 07:48 AM
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Yeah. Live disconnect protection kicks in I assume.
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Old 01-30-2007, 07:49 AM
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How could this be anything other than a fold (for $500)?
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:39 AM
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Who would take the dead guy's money? I'd say the $500 bet is off.

As an aside, I once witnessed a player having a seizure at a low limit table. Not sure if he was in a hand or not, but the floor took his chips as soon as EMS came.
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Old 01-30-2007, 10:36 AM
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Big NL game at the XXXXX Casino. Button opens for $500, BB pushes his stack of 25k, Button looks back at his stack, sees he has 30k - and then keels over. Dead. He will be pushing up the daisies for now on, the player never got to state his action before kicking the bucket.

Whats the ruling?

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I know this occurred once and the floor ruled "if the player is dead so his hand." After seeing disconnect protection on the internet I think I would be ok with allowing him to be all-in for the $500. I don't think I would even have a problem with calling the whole thing off and returning his $500 to his stack.
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Old 01-30-2007, 10:41 AM
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BB should call the clock. Then the ruling is easy.

Anyway, isn't your hand dead if you're not in your chair to act? The keeling over part instead of slumping over in your chair is key. Plus, they're going to wheel him out without acting on his hand eventually.
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Old 01-30-2007, 10:58 AM
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What is the over/under on how long it takes one of the other players to yell "SEAT OPEN"?
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Old 01-30-2007, 11:05 AM
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If he slumps forward, and his lifeless head pushes his chips past the bet line, I think you'd have to rule this a call.
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Old 01-30-2007, 11:11 AM
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Dead guy hit the bad Beat Jackpot. His family keeps half the chips, Pusher in the hand gets 25%, rest of table splits 25%.
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