Has anyone gotten paid since Wednesday?

DegenGambler · #1 01-23-2007, 08:03 PM

Just curious, but has anyone gotten a check or a deposit into their bank account from Neteller or any poker site since black Wednesday? I of course only mean withdrawals made after Wednesday, but it may include withdrawals in the immediately preceeding days as well.

Nookx · #2 01-23-2007, 08:22 PM

I withdrew some money on 1/17 and it is still pending according to my neteller account, and my bank hasn't received any funds.

kioshk · #3 01-23-2007, 08:22 PM

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Just curious, but has anyone gotten a check or a deposit into their bank account from Neteller or any poker site since black Wednesday? I of course only mean withdrawals made after Wednesday, but it may include withdrawals in the immediately preceeding days as well.

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Black Wednesday! No Benjamins for me yet. Fight the power! (raised fist)

ongo30 · #4 01-23-2007, 08:35 PM

I have gotten paid from bodog right away. Absolute poker has worried me a bit though. The only way they say I was able to get paid was via regular mail check. They said it will take 17 business days. I was wondering why they got rid of their priority check feature, and they didn't have an answer. They answered on the 4th call(previous 3 were over 30 min on hold then disconnect). Has anyone dealt with Absolute poker on payouts. Absolute states that everyones money is held in an insured account or something, but I know nothing is guaranteed. Does anyone know if a site owned by Canadian Indians has any obligation to pay you your money??

DegenGambler · #5 01-23-2007, 08:39 PM

Sure, of course they have an obligation to pay you money. But that doesn't mean the debt is practically collectible.

spoonitnow · #6 01-23-2007, 08:42 PM

I've also been paid since Wednesday on Bodog, via Click2Pay. Used the debit card, and got my cash on Friday.

DegenGambler · #7 01-23-2007, 08:51 PM

Btw, I didn't mean to give a smart ass answer, but that is the likely result here. You are owed money under the terms of the agreement that you entered into by virtue of creating an account with these poker sites. However, in order to collect on this, as well as any other debt, you would have to sue the company. Practically speaking, there is no way this is going to happen unless you have a very, very large amount of money tied up in the account. It's just not financially feasible to sue on anything less than several thousand dollars. And even if you do sue, the likelihood of getting one of these defendant companies to appear in court and then pay the judgment against them (assuming you win) is pretty much non-existant. So they probably have an obligation to pay you, but it's just hard to collect.

There is another argument floating out there that doesn't make a whole lot of sense given the legal precedent. One (if this one was a poker site) may argue that because the substance of the underlying transaction is illegal (i.e. internet gambling), then any contract entered into with that illegality as the subject matter is void. Contracts that require illegal action are not real contracts, kind of like how you cannot sue a hitman for failing to follow through on a hit. However, US courts when given the chance have NOT found internet poker to be illegal, but have not made express findings (to the best of my knowledge) that say that internet gambling is legal. I can get into more of the facts about the cases that I've read on the subject, but that's just a word or 400 on the topic to start with.

ongo30 · #8 01-23-2007, 09:24 PM

thanks for the response, my main concern was why Absolute got rid of their $25 expedited check option, and why their only method of payment is a 17 business day regular check option? Sounds pretty shady. I really hope that check arrives because it is a large portion of my bankroll. I really don't think a company like Absolute would roll over right now, but I'm suspicious

Darque Nuts · #9 01-23-2007, 09:38 PM

DG, I also made a withdrawal request last Thursday and it was approved at that time. BUT, tonight it was changed to a pending status. I called up Neteller and they said that due to the tremendous volume of requests, I will not receive the check for 4-6 WEEKS (GULP). Usually I get it in less than a week. Feds got them/us by the Nuts (L - ouch - O - ouch - L - ouch).

Zobags · #10 01-23-2007, 09:38 PM

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There is another argument floating out there that doesn't make a whole lot of sense given the legal precedent. One (if this one was a poker site) may argue that because the substance of the underlying transaction is illegal (i.e. internet gambling), then any contract entered into with that illegality as the subject matter is void. Contracts that require illegal action are not real contracts, kind of like how you cannot sue a hitman for failing to follow through on a hit. However, US courts when given the chance have NOT found internet poker to be illegal, but have not made express findings (to the best of my knowledge) that say that internet gambling is legal. I can get into more of the facts about the cases that I've read on the subject, but that's just a word or 400 on the topic to start with.

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The doctrine of unclean hands would prevent any poker site from making that argument.