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Old 01-10-2007, 02:44 AM
TT_fold TT_fold is offline
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Default Best way to counter players who min-reraise preflop?

Across many of the buyins I've played, I've encountered players who love to min-reraise my button raises. This seems very exploitable, and yet I have a hard time facing opponents who keep stealing the "initiative" from me.

Any tips?
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Old 01-10-2007, 02:58 AM
Johnny FlopBoot Johnny FlopBoot is offline
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Default Re: Best way to counter players who min-reraise preflop?

I usually just call, because I feel this generally represents a monster. Then I take a look at the flop and decide whether or not I could've cracked something big with it.

Problem with re-re-raising is that they just flat call and you don't know what they have. If they re-re-re-pop it, you can narrow it down pretty slim.

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Old 01-10-2007, 03:03 AM
omgwtfnoway omgwtfnoway is offline
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Default Re: Best way to counter players who min-reraise preflop?

i play a pretty loose game from the button and it opponents who do this to me are usually trying to keep me in line and take control of a pot or two. they lead at nearly every flop after this.
assuming you raise 3xBB you'll be getting 4:1 pot odds so you don't need much of a hand to call.
i'll also reraise and commit myself or put my stack in with my better hands expecting a call.
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Old 01-10-2007, 04:23 AM
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Default Re: Best way to counter players who min-reraise preflop?

I have a new found respect for you. NH sir.
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Old 01-10-2007, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: Best way to counter players who min-reraise preflop?

I like just calling preflop. If someone does this regularly I don't think it is a "monster" but it usually means not-junk and playable. A real strong hand is more likely to raise 2 or 3 times what you raised.

Once the flop comes take the initiative back by raising their leads light and taking free cards (if you need them) if they try to check-raise.

Check calling the flop is sometimes alright with marginal hands if you know they won't fire again the turn or river... but usually you are better raising with anything that is worth playing.
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Old 01-12-2007, 03:24 AM
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Default Re: Best way to counter players who min-reraise preflop?

I'd reraise with my big hands as well as some marginal but playable hands (down to medium suited connectors) to help disguise my monsters. Other than that, just call if you have a playable hand. If it is totally junk and you're not good at reading the flop, lay it down around 50 percent in these cases.
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Old 01-12-2007, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: Best way to counter players who min-reraise preflop?

i'd move to a NLHE HU table, if i intended to play NL to begin with.
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Old 01-12-2007, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: Best way to counter players who min-reraise preflop?

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i'd move to a NLHE HU table, if i intended to play NL to begin with.

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Old 01-21-2007, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: Best way to counter players who min-reraise preflop?

Never fold here. You've got position and excellent pot odds.

Float the flop with two overs, any pair, any gutshot or better if he c-bets moderately, and see what he does on the turn.

Work on figuring out what his range is for this play, and how he handles reraises.
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Old 01-21-2007, 07:48 PM
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Default Re: Best way to counter players who min-reraise preflop?

Usual limit holdem. They will have the initiative and only a good hyperaggressive player can take it back successfully when he is against a solid player.

Any semihand on the flop or around is good enough to win back the pot often enough, though if it's limit poker it won't work vs. hyperaggressive players as they rate to play back, so one needs to make a solid hand most of the time, or make a move on the turn instead with any reasonable semihand.

Super System 2 limit chapter says that when you get 3-bet preflop, you need to flop a hand. That's horribly weak but flopping a hand doesn't necessarily mean a solid hand, and if one can't play back with semi-hands (in case they bet the flop when they miss) then one gets more value from good hands.

If the reraiser has control and he reraises often one could even ignore he ever reraised, and if he doesn't have control then one gets better value from hits and can move on them with reasonable semihands until they are total idiots.
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