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Old 12-19-2006, 05:59 PM
Pocket3's Pocket3's is offline
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Default Horribly misplayed AK! Help me please!

I've played about 30 hands with villain. He seems pretty solid, not doing anything crazy.

I have $50, villain is in the SB and has me covered.
Blinds are .5/1

UTG Limps.
Folds to me on the button. I have A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], and raise to $5
SB calls.
BB Folds
Limper Folds.
Pot is $12.

Flop is J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB checks, I bet $6, SB calls. Pot is now $24.

Turn is 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I bet $24, he raises me all-in. I'm sure I'm beat, but my lousy betting has me pot committed as I have only $15 left. I call, he turns over AQ, and I'm toast.

I'm thinking on this coordinted flop, after my flop bet did not take down the pot, I should have checked the turn to control the pot size. I don't think I'm winning a big pot here. This would have left the pot at $24. But then what do I do on the river? Call a small to medium bet, and fold to a big bet? Help me please. Any thoughts are appreciated.
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Old 12-19-2006, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: Horribly misplayed AK! Help me please!

I'd bet more on the flop, check the turn and call a small medium bet on the river. It's tough to lose much less than $50 here though.
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Old 12-19-2006, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: Horribly misplayed AK! Help me please!

I think you should move down man. No offense, but you can't win with such a fundamental misunderstanding of how to bet size postflop.
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Old 12-19-2006, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: Horribly misplayed AK! Help me please!

I would check that flop a big % of the time.
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Old 12-19-2006, 09:15 PM
ImsaKidd ImsaKidd is offline
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Default Re: Horribly misplayed AK! Help me please!

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I would check that flop a big % of the time.

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I'm pretty sure this isnt a good idea, not sure.
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Old 12-19-2006, 09:49 PM
olof86 olof86 is offline
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Default Re: Horribly misplayed AK! Help me please!

I'd be more inclined to bet this flop with 50 bb though (which is the case in this hand).
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Old 12-20-2006, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: Horribly misplayed AK! Help me please!

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I think you should move down man. No offense, but you can't win with such a fundamental misunderstanding of how to bet size postflop.

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I'm a 50NL player. What did hero wrong here? I guess he had to bet more on the flop and checked the turn? Could you enlighten me here?
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Old 12-20-2006, 11:57 AM
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Default Re: Horribly misplayed AK! Help me please!

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I think you should move down man. No offense, but you can't win with such a fundamental misunderstanding of how to bet size postflop.

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I think the original poster's analysis of the hand is evidence enough that he is plenty capable of playing at this level.

The small bet, however, is a mistake, and here's why: Someone on a draw or with a mediocre hand will call a small bet, but someone that calls a pot sized bet is telling you that they really have something. So spending a little more money on the flop bet buys you the information that keeps you from losing your whole stack later on.
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Old 12-20-2006, 11:58 AM
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BBV
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Old 12-20-2006, 11:58 AM
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Default Re: Horribly misplayed AK! Help me please!

With less than 50 bbs behind and TPTK, I can't understand why you aren't happy getting it AI here [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Pot the flop (guess you can find a fold if villain shoves) and shove a safe turn.
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