KQs too deep?

Bona · #1 12-10-2006, 09:37 PM

Anybody fold this on the turn or river?

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
6 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

River: (9 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11 BB

lstephen666 · #2 12-10-2006, 09:42 PM

Reads?

I don't fold the turn getting 8:1 to draw at the flush.

I think it takes a read to fold the river. Could he be doing this with KT? Is he just playing you for a steal? Would he bet a straight draw (78) on the flop?

DrModern · #3 12-10-2006, 09:43 PM

Folding the turn would be absurd. The river is quite close, but you're probably good the requisite 10%. I don't like to fold TPGK in decent-sized pots heads-up.

00Snitch · #4 12-10-2006, 09:56 PM

I HATE GETTING CHECK-RAISED ON THE TURN WITH TOP PAIR! WAAAAAAAAAAA! [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

i actually think BB has something big here considering his b/c, c/r line. that is scary. all being said, because you have the fd, you cant fold the turn.

Bona · #5 12-10-2006, 10:00 PM

He had K9 and hit 2 pair. That part goes with the territory but I just wanted to see if many would have folded the river. I felt later like I should have believed him.

fretelöo · #6 12-10-2006, 10:05 PM

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He had K9 and hit 2 pair. That part goes with the territory but I just wanted to see if many would have folded the river. I felt later like I should have believed him.

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You should probably have waited a bit more before telling the result. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

It's close. I would probably steel myself to let it go, but I'd hate myself for it. If I wouldn't let it go, I'd hate myself even more. You can go only wrong in this spot...

Xhad · #7 12-10-2006, 10:05 PM

You could consider folding the turn against some players if you didn't have the fd. The problem here is that your flush draw makes a turn fold insane, and then you get to the river getting 10:1 and it's "Well crap I'm losing but I have to call this." I like nutty river folds as much as the next guy and I would never drop this.

Bona · #8 12-10-2006, 10:30 PM

Thx. By the way nice win DU. You play tough.

Berg · #9 12-11-2006, 01:37 AM

*grunch*

I play it the same.

BigBadBabar · #10 12-11-2006, 06:06 AM

wow, never fold this, wow. if he hit his kicker that's too bad. but this would be a bad fold on any street.