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Old 11-21-2006, 01:22 AM
Speedlimits Speedlimits is offline
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Default $100NL Do you hate this call?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Seat 1: 9hole ($25.35)
Seat 2: pokerplyrcab ($32.30)
Seat 3: neilz_ ($143.95)
Seat 4: Villian ($296.75)
Seat 5: HERO($118.40)
Seat 6: Koether ($103.05)
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $12</font>, SB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($24, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $16</font>, SB calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($56, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($56, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $42</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $140
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Old 11-21-2006, 01:33 AM
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Default Re: $100NL Do you hate this call?

bet the turn
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Old 11-21-2006, 01:36 AM
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Default Re: $100NL Do you hate this call?

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bet the turn

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dang it's lame to be house #2 always....

House #2 says, i don't hate the call as much as i hate you not betting the turn... at least 2/3rds of the possible range that he's floating you with now beats you..
not to mention KJ which is another popular holding
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Old 11-21-2006, 01:36 AM
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Default Re: $100NL Do you hate this call?

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bet the turn

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I checked for pot control, I didn't want a huge pot.
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Old 11-21-2006, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: $100NL Do you hate this call?

To those of you against checking the turn, please list the factors in this hand that make exercising some pot control suboptimal. Or if you prefer, concoct a similar situation in which pot control would be more appropriate. I think that would help both me and OP.
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Old 11-21-2006, 01:46 AM
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To those of you against checking the turn, please list the factors in this hand that make exercising some pot control suboptimal. Or if you prefer, concoct a similar situation in which pot control would be more appropriate. I think that would help both me and OP.

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Do you play this hand the same way?
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Old 11-21-2006, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: $100NL Do you hate this call?

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To those of you against checking the turn, please list the factors in this hand that make exercising some pot control suboptimal. Or if you prefer, concoct a similar situation in which pot control would be more appropriate. I think that would help both me and OP.

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When I 3-bet AK PF and hit the flop perfectly (e.g. here), pot control is usually the last thing on my mind.

If you raised like KJ in the CO and got a decent TPGK flop, checking behind a safe turn might be a good spot for pot control. Make sense?
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Old 11-21-2006, 01:48 AM
joe234321 joe234321 is offline
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Default Re: $100NL Do you hate this call?

Letting a free card drop is terrible. I understand that you want pot control. Bet like 1/2 the pot or something. Don't let him draw for free. Also, you are in position so that would make it easier for me to bet the turn here.
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Old 11-21-2006, 02:07 AM
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Default Re: $100NL Do you hate this call?

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To those of you against checking the turn, please list the factors in this hand that make exercising some pot control suboptimal. Or if you prefer, concoct a similar situation in which pot control would be more appropriate. I think that would help both me and OP.

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Do you play this hand the same way?

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I bet this, but checking crosses my mind probably because when and when not to use pot control has not yet completely solidified in my head.
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Old 11-21-2006, 02:12 AM
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call all day...
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