pocket 4s in a turbo

derosnec · #1 11-06-2006, 08:42 PM

opponent is terrible (in this game and on sharskscope)

he's on some kind of tilt and is raising alot pf

blinds are 25/50 and he has 900 chips and raises to 180 from the button

anyone push pocket fours here?

psari · #2 11-06-2006, 09:10 PM

It looks like he's begging for action here, generally meaning he's holding a monster, no? Based on this notion I advocate folding this. You have a nice lead here, and will find a better spot to rinse him.

psari

Goldmund · #3 11-06-2006, 10:58 PM

How is he begging for action w a raise of 3.6X the Big Blind? As to OP's question: There is no clearcut answer.

A fold isnt bad IMO, an all-in reraise isn't bad if he folds, while ure a coinflip or way behind if he calls...I would reraise if I havent repopped too often before and oppt has shown a modicum of common sense and has been raising a lot..else, just fold and move on to the next hand. Pocket fours isnt exactly the Holy Grail of HU poker...Hell its only about 11 to 9 against a random hand. Goldmund

psari · #4 11-06-2006, 11:37 PM

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How is he begging for action w a raise of 3.6X the Big Blind?

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He has less than 10 BB's and is not necessarily trying to fend off action against his hand. His raise will commit him to basically any flop, so in essence I think he's committing his stack here. I don't know what limits OP plays, but from my experience in low limits, I have usually found this to mean a monster. Now I am not saying there are clearly defined rules in poker, especially heads-up, but based on the conditions of the game at that point, as well as my own experience in lower limits, this is my best guess. I am only giving my opinion, and by no means do I claim to be an expert.

psari

thechainsaw · #5 11-07-2006, 11:47 AM

not much to go on, reraise all in

Goldmund · #6 11-07-2006, 12:03 PM

No he doesnt have less than 10BB's, he's got 18 big blinds left and raises to 3.6....He's leaving plenty of room for a fold. If the raise WERE 1/3 of his stack you could count on an all-in indeed I agree. As posted here he will fold his marginal hands I think. Read marginal as: A2-A6 off, QJ, KT, K9s etc. Goldmund

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How is he begging for action w a raise of 3.6X the Big Blind?

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He has less than 10 BB's and is not necessarily trying to fend off action against his hand. His raise will commit him to basically any flop, so in essence I think he's committing his stack here. I don't know what limits OP plays, but from my experience in low limits, I have usually found this to mean a monster. Now I am not saying there are clearly defined rules in poker, especially heads-up, but based on the conditions of the game at that point, as well as my own experience in lower limits, this is my best guess. I am only giving my opinion, and by no means do I claim to be an expert.

psari

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psari · #7 11-07-2006, 12:35 PM

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No he doesnt have less than 10BB's, he's got 18 big blinds left and raises to 3.6

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My mistake Goldmund, I apologize. I don't know why I was so sure that I was reading the blinds as 50/100. As that is not the case I do agree with your original analysis.

psari

XxPenguinxX · #8 11-07-2006, 12:42 PM

Push. You've got a decent chip lead, blinds are getting big and he's not going to go quietly. You're probably in a race if you get called, which isn't that bad a result.

jay_shark · #9 11-07-2006, 12:56 PM

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Push. You've got a decent chip lead, blinds are getting big and he's not going to go quietly. You're probably in a race if you get called, which isn't that bad a result.

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Pushing is fine but you can do better by trying the stop and go play . Since you're first to act , I would just call and then push all in on the flop . If he has two overcards , he will hit about one third of the time . If you push and he calls then you may be a marginal favourite , however the stop and go play adds more equity because if he doesn't hit , he'll be forced to fold on the flop .

Goldmund · #10 11-07-2006, 01:15 PM

This analysis is a bit lacking Jay...You also LOSE some equity with the stop-and-go, namely those times where he would have called all-in preflop, misses the flop and does not improve his hand.

There was an exhaustive analysis of the stop-and-go recently in one of the Mags, so I wont repeat that here. One question makes it a bit clearer though: If your opponent misses the flop for the preflop raise of about 1/6 of his stack would you rather have him fold for 5/6 or be in it with all of his chips, assuming he has overcards? I think the stack of Villain is too big/The preflop raise too small for a stop-and-go. Goldmund