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Old 10-12-2006, 04:54 AM
David Ottosen David Ottosen is offline
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Posted on pinnacle right now:

Topalov +123 (including tiebreaks)

If you include tiebreaks, I can't see Topalov as an underdog here at all. He has black tomorrow but I think he's been the superior player for the most part during this match. Last round of a WC match could simply go either way, and tiebreaks are very favorable to Topalov IMO, as he has consistently been the faster player throughout the match.

Edited to add: Sorry, I moved the line a lot. I think anything that has Topalov as an underdog is a good line though.
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Old 10-12-2006, 04:58 AM
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Do you know how the colours will work in the tiebreaks, and could you tell me what the exact structure will be? I'm having a bit of difficulty finding it and it looks like move 1 has already been played here in game 12. I know there's some rapid and maybe some blitz...

Edit: Perhaps I'm wrong about the game starting, and susan has assumed Kramnik will play d4...
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Old 10-12-2006, 04:59 AM
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3.7.1 If the scores are level after the regular twelve (12) games, after a new drawing of colours, four (4) tie-break games shall be played. The games shall be played using the electronic clock starting with 25 minutes on the clock for each player with an addition of 10 seconds after each move.

3.7.2 If the scores are level after the games in paragraph 3. 7. 1, then, after a new drawing of colours, two (2) five-minute games shall be played with the addition of 10 seconds after each move.

3.7.3 If the score is still level, the players shall play a single decisive sudden death game. The player, who wins the drawing of lots, may choose the colour. White shall receive 6 minutes, black shall receive 5 minutes, without any addition. In case of a draw the player with the black pieces is declared as winner.
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Old 10-12-2006, 05:00 AM
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Also, do you know what Pinnacle's position will be if there is any change of the game 5 result?
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Old 10-12-2006, 05:03 AM
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I believe they are counting it as a forfeit loss to Kramnik as even Kramnik appears to have given up trying to get that game replayed. He has made some threats about suing FIDE etc, but the result for the purposes of this match appears to be set.

Further, the line as posted would make no sense otherwise - if Kramnik was truly 1 game ahead, the line would be something like +manyhundred on Topalov I would guess.
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Old 10-12-2006, 05:04 AM
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Yes, I think so too. I think that Pinnacle will pay out fast after the result and protests won't matter.

Wow, I assume you moved Topalov to +116. +107 now.
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Old 10-12-2006, 01:16 PM
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New lines after today's draw:
Topalov +100
Kramnik -110.

Any idea? (Warning: I suck at chess). Solely because of the idea that I have that Topalov was introducing novelties in these Slav lines they've been playing over and over and Kramnik has been consistently behind on time do I think that maybe Topalov should be slight favourite. If this is so, Topalov at evens should be +EV by some amount, and I don't see how he can be -EV.
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Old 10-12-2006, 01:55 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
New lines after today's draw:
Topalov +100
Kramnik -110.

Any idea? (Warning: I suck at chess). Solely because of the idea that I have that Topalov was introducing novelties in these Slav lines they've been playing over and over and Kramnik has been consistently behind on time do I think that maybe Topalov should be slight favourite. If this is so, Topalov at evens should be +EV by some amount, and I don't see how he can be -EV.

[/ QUOTE ]I dont follow chess at all but from everything I read it is my understanding that Kramnik is a far better speed player that Topalov.
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