Hank Azaria laying down KK.....should I be impressed?

azaycriz · #1 10-05-2006, 06:32 AM

In the WSOP ME, he correctly folded KK to AA preflop. Was this a really good play? A really bad play? Standard play? (I don't know much about donkament strategy)

Dunno, it was just kind of surprising to see anyone fold KK preflop, much less a celebrity amateur player.

StrayBullet · #2 10-05-2006, 07:42 AM

I believe that "correct" laydown has to be made 1 in 24 times, so I'm not sure if it's a "good" laydown or not.

Man of Means · #3 10-05-2006, 09:15 AM

What were bet/raise sizes, stack sizes, player profiles, history between him and other player, etc.

Not standard play but it could be "correct" depending on situation.

Black winter day · #4 10-05-2006, 09:22 AM

As i recall, he was getting more than 4 to 1 by the time he made that laydown so it was a bad fold.

NickC19 · #5 10-05-2006, 01:00 PM

The other guy was pretty believeable when he all but told him he had aces.

dpdawson · #6 10-05-2006, 05:28 PM

Hank Azaria plays in a pretty tough home game in L.A. and is a decent poker player.

No idea about the fold, though.

List · #7 10-05-2006, 06:54 PM

He had correct odds to call even if he knew for sure that his opponent had aces, so it was an awful fold.

MCS · #8 10-05-2006, 07:36 PM

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Yes. Good read, still a bad play.

Given the chip counts, there was pretty much no point in even TRYING to read his opponent.

riverboatking · #9 10-05-2006, 08:53 PM

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not commenting on this specific play because i know nothing of the variables.
however this comment that he had the correct odds to call even if he knew his opponent had AA is fallacious.

this isn't a cash game and so pot odds are not the sole consideration when making a decision as one cannot rebuy and take advantage of the "long term".

i don't play many tournaments but i do know that a fundemental theory of tournament poker is that it is often times correct to pass on a marginal situation if it will prevent you from taking advantage of a much larger edge later on.

jackblack73 · #10 10-05-2006, 08:53 PM

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This was not a cash game, it was the main event. He loses, he has to wait another year. Pot odds aren't everything.