The art of bluffing 2

NYplayer · #1 09-29-2006, 09:11 AM

So as I said in the art of bluffing 1 post i usually dont commit chips without a hand on the later streets. Here is a situation where i tryied it again. Is this the right idea or spewing? What's the proper river action?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($3948.75)
SB ($1925)
Hero ($1940)
UTG ($2030)
MP ($1980)
CO ($4221)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
2 folds, CO raises to $75, 2 folds, Hero calls $55.

Flop: ($160) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($160) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $150, Hero raises to $450, CO calls $300.

River: ($1060) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero ...?

MDMA · #2 09-29-2006, 09:19 AM

Impossible to answer.

RepulseMonkey · #3 09-29-2006, 10:10 AM

Your turn line looks like you're repping a set of 4's/pair of sixes though set probably bets turn. raise turn to 600ish,
as played bet 700 else c/f if you think he's calling.

As played though and considering your image it looks like you missed flop (you're repping exactly what you've got) ie you're bluffing. Overpairs generally bet flop as flop is draw heavy and probably all over COs range.

KRANTZ · #4 09-29-2006, 10:19 AM

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pretty much, without reads, but this leans heavily on the spew side, IMO

PokerBot123 · #5 09-29-2006, 10:20 AM

Don't you have the best hand here quite often? Can't he have something like KsJs.

NYplayer · #6 09-29-2006, 10:22 AM

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As played though and considering your image it looks like you missed flop (you're repping exactly what you've got) ie you're bluffing. Overpairs generally bet flop as flop is draw heavy and probably all over COs range.

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Why couldn't i have a hand like 66, A6s, or 65s,,76s, 86s, 64s?

rcs1537 · #7 09-29-2006, 10:36 AM

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As played though and considering your image it looks like you missed flop (you're repping exactly what you've got) ie you're bluffing. Overpairs generally bet flop as flop is draw heavy and probably all over COs range.

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Why couldn't i have a hand like 66, A6s, or 65s,,76s, 86s, 64s?

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I was thinking the same thing... I like your play... I think the proper river follow is to push or bet at least the pot... whatever you think looks more convincing

Ellsworth T · #8 09-29-2006, 10:37 AM

Open shove, his play smells of [censored].

RepulseMonkey · #9 09-29-2006, 10:46 AM

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As played though and considering your image it looks like you missed flop (you're repping exactly what you've got) ie you're bluffing. Overpairs generally bet flop as flop is draw heavy and probably all over COs range.

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Why couldn't i have a hand like 66, A6s, or 65s,,76s, 86s, 64s?

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Very true but in your initial post You described your play/image as Nitty. Only 66 fits that description-calling raise OOP.

NYplayer · #10 09-29-2006, 11:05 AM

i guess i see 67s,65s,86s, and 64s as being stronger than AJo when defending so i just assumed you'd know they were in range since i defended AJo