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Old 07-28-2006, 09:14 AM
TheHome TheHome is offline
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Default Help me win my 60k back from 20 40

So I posted this
threadabout how I have lost 60k in 20 40 6max and thanks to broke my foot.
I'm now on a mission to try win it back! I will post some hands i'm unsure and try to response other peoples threads too ( hopefully I wont get flamed too much for bad advice [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] )

First hand: I just lost a pot and i'm steaming a bit. 3 handed tight(32/16) player openraises from button and I 3 bet Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] he caps and I call. Flop is Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4: club: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] I check call. Turn 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and I check-raise he 3bets and I call. River 3 :club and I check-call.

Good?

3 handed. I open raise T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] from button tight SB(34/24) 3 bets loose BB(56/4) calls and I cap. Flop is 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] checked to me I bet and the BB calls. Turn K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] he chekraises i 3 bet and he caps. River 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and I call.

Little too agressive?

I open raise Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 :diamond UTG in 5 handed. Tight player from hand 1 3 bets and I cap. Flop 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] he bets I raise he 3 bets and I call.
Turn 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] check-check
River K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] check-check

Good?
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Old 07-28-2006, 09:19 AM
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Party screenname? PM me. I'll look at hands you played in my database.
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Old 07-28-2006, 09:24 AM
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Hand one, fold preflop, just check/call turn, check/fold river now unless he's tilting too.

Hand two, fold to turn c/r. I'd be tempted to just check turn.

Hand three, fold preflop, just call the preflop 3-bet, just call the flop bet and fold the turn unimproved.
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Old 07-28-2006, 09:55 AM
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Default Re: Help me win my 60k back from 20 40

Why did you 3-bet the turn in hand 2?
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Old 07-28-2006, 10:01 AM
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Why did you 3-bet the turn in hand 2?

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Villain clearly has the Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
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Old 07-28-2006, 10:11 AM
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I had seen him semibluff raise flush draw couple times.
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Old 07-28-2006, 10:36 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
So I posted this
threadabout how I have lost 60k in 20 40 6max and thanks to broke my foot.
I'm now on a mission to try win it back! I will post some hands i'm unsure and try to response other peoples threads too ( hopefully I wont get flamed too much for bad advice [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] )

First hand: I just lost a pot and i'm steaming a bit. 3 handed tight(32/16) player openraises from button and I 3 bet Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] he caps and I call. Flop is Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4: club: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] I check call. Turn 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and I check-raise he 3bets and I call. River 3 :club and I check-call.

Good?

3 handed. I open raise T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] from button tight SB(34/24) 3 bets loose BB(56/4) calls and I cap. Flop is 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] checked to me I bet and the BB calls. Turn K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] he chekraises i 3 bet and he caps. River 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and I call.

Little too agressive?

I open raise Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 :diamond UTG in 5 handed. Tight player from hand 1 3 bets and I cap. Flop 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] he bets I raise he 3 bets and I call.
Turn 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] check-check
River K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] check-check

Good?

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Hey,

you seem very loose and aggressive. That's fine if you can finesse people into making mistakes post-flop and bet your hands for value but it looks like it's the other way around right now. All three of these hands are very spewy for the reasons people gave already. I would cut down the number of hands you play until you learn how to play marginal hands more cautiously after the flop.

Ex: 3-beting the turn in hand 2 is pretty spewy, but I could see where in some situations this would be OK. He caps you. You have to fold here against a sane player.
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Old 07-28-2006, 10:59 AM
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Yea I know. I used to be more solid about (28/22) back when Stoxtrader coached me and I played ton 30 60 and higher and won and played good. The [censored] happened in personal life, I got kocky and decided I dont need to listen the idiot anymore. So I began just playing very loose.

Here is about my preflop openings(the hand named is in the range) now how bad does it look:
UTG A6-AKo A2s+, KTo+ K8s+ T9o+ 87s+ and then QJ,QT,JT,J9
MP All those + A2o and T8s, J8s, K7s
CO All those + 54s+, T8o+, K5s
BUTTON All those + all suited kings, queens down to Q4s and Jacks down to J6s, all connectors down to 54o and some random stuff like T6s
SB All but like 72o and 83o+

These are when I'm playing "solid" when im tilting its button hands from every position.

My problem is that like I said I use very very good game selection.. well there is rarely bad games v early morning/late night at party. Anyway the normal lineup in my game is such a that there is no-one with VPIP under 30 and usually it ranges from 42 to 50 and one guy with like 32. So I guess I should adjust to that by playing tight.. however I see how bad they all play and just wanna punish them etc. Also their went to showdown is almost always like 41-50% and when I played higher I got used to people having went to showdown of 33-35 and that i could actually get them fold something.
So maybe I should play more against 2+2 players? It's unlikely that I would win, but I would lose slower and stay away from bustotown longer!

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Old 07-28-2006, 11:04 AM
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Yeah move up where they respect your raises.
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Old 07-28-2006, 11:04 AM
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It sounds like more that you have psychological problems than anything else. You have solid fundamentals and choose not to use them.

I would talk to Rory.
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