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Old 07-18-2006, 04:46 PM
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Default 1/2 NL Middle set vs. 2p2er. DEEEP

History: Villain is aejones. We've played a bit, but really not an extensive sample. When we first played, i marked him as a maniac, but i decided that hes probably good and very LAG, tho he makes some very weird moves (minraising PF on occasion.) I'm not sure if i stand out to him at all, but he should probably remember this hand.

In this session, ive been 3betting him a decent amount. Mostly i was picking up hands and none of them got shown down, so he may think im just trying to abuse him.

We're deep and he knows that, so i think he can call PF with pretty big range.

On to the hand:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($390)
BB ($442.76)
UTG ($241.64)
Button ($427.53)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1. BB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $24</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $17.

Flop: ($50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $41</font>, Button calls $41.

Turn: ($132) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero does what? What range am i against right now?
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Old 07-18-2006, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 NL Middle set vs. 2p2er. DEEEP

I'm betting about $120 on the turn and insta-calling an all-in.

Maybe he's got [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]s, maybe not. Ax X[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is a definite raising possibility on that turn. Two pair or a set could be getting frisky.

If he moves in over such a turn bet, you're getting $577:$205 to call, which is slightly EV- if he's got exactly a flush. AA is the only hand you're dead to. Everything else you have a massive equity edge.

I'm not worrying at all about getting the money in here if he pushes over your bet.

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Old 07-18-2006, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 NL Middle set vs. 2p2er. DEEEP

110.
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Old 07-18-2006, 05:07 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 NL Middle set vs. 2p2er. DEEEP

I don't know, If you bet 120 and he shoves, I think most of the time you are going to see diamonds, because he's gotta believe he has little FE from that strong of a bet, at the very least you have AxKd. I might try a weaker bet hoping to induce.
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Old 07-18-2006, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 NL Middle set vs. 2p2er. DEEEP

and fwiw, 30/18 isnt lag. its just bad.
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Old 07-18-2006, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 NL Middle set vs. 2p2er. DEEEP

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and fwiw, 30/18 isnt lag. its just bad.

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having a winning month and them come back and talk [censored].
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Old 07-18-2006, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 NL Middle set vs. 2p2er. DEEEP

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and fwiw, 30/18 isnt lag. its just bad.

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FWIW, i know someone who has very similar numbers and is/was destroying 10/20NL. But im not saying this has anything to do with the villain, just pointing it out.
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Old 07-18-2006, 05:29 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 NL Middle set vs. 2p2er. DEEEP

30/18 at 10/20 and 1/2 are diff things.
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Old 07-18-2006, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 NL Middle set vs. 2p2er. DEEEP

he has a flush never here. He's on AA/AK/KdKx/QdQx/88.

If he has kings or queens with diamond, he checks behind. Bet 2/3 pot and call all in, or get it in on non diamond river.
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Old 07-18-2006, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 NL Middle set vs. 2p2er. DEEEP

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and fwiw, 30/18 isnt lag. its just bad.

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LOL- I'm sorry I'd rather improve my game and have more fun than playing 15/10 or something ridiculous for a slightly better WR.

In my defense, I promise you I've never min raised preflop intentionally- I was likely a glitch with multi-tabling or more likely I was having trouble with my new keypad- I enter an amount to reraise and it doesn't go in and I end up reraising minimum.

I will have no problem analyzing the hand from my point of view, giving my reads, etc. if you would like after a few more responses.
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