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Old 07-13-2006, 02:59 PM
Frostie Frostie is offline
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Default UTG limp bluff raise - how often?

You know, when people are in early position, and they limp in, someone raises them ahead and they re-raise, representing a big pair (such as AA, KK, QQ). I know it's good to do when you feel they're weak. I do them rarely, however I usually do them with hands such as KJ, KQ, or AJ. I do them against people with same stack sizes and not very experienced. Any other good reads on when to do this?
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:06 PM
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Default Re: UTG limp bluff raise - how often?

Don't limp UTG with that garbage.

Also, I rarely see people bluffing when they do this.
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:06 PM
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Default Re: UTG limp bluff raise - how often?

I can honestly say I have never LRR is my entire poker career. Opponents at SSNL just aren't paying enough attention. Meh, maybe I'll try it today.
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: UTG limp bluff raise - how often?

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Don't limp UTG with that garbage.

Also, I rarely see people bluffing when they do this.

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Exactly. You rarely see people bluffing. People will think you have a stronger hand. Some people would even fold QQ on that spot. And if you have hands such as KQ, chances may be that a K or Q didn't hit them. They probably have TT or 99, if they have aces, they'd probably re-raise, in that case you can easily fold.
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: UTG limp bluff raise - how often?

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I can honestly say I have never LRR is my entire poker career. Opponents at SSNL just aren't paying enough attention. Meh, maybe I'll try it today.

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It can be useful with AA when there is a bad habitual raiser (55/35 types) to your left and players to his left that are always calling his raises. You can trap a lot of dead money in the middle this way.

Of course, you run the risk that this is the one hand that the bad LAG folds, and end up playing a 4-way limped pot...

I never open-limp in 6-max anyway, but AA would be the only hand I would ever try this with. In Full-Ring, I open-limp some hands in EP, so I might occasionally limp-rr AA, KK, or AKs
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: UTG limp bluff raise - how often?

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You know, when people are in early position, and they limp in, someone raises them ahead and they re-raise, representing a big pair (such as AA, KK, QQ). I know it's good to do when you feel they're weak. I do them rarely, however I usually do them with hands such as KJ, KQ, or AJ. I do them against people with same stack sizes and not very experienced. Any other good reads on when to do this?

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Limp re-raising with these hands is a little FPS I think. Not really necessary at this level and you may trap yourself after the flop. Every now and then I'll LRR with AA UTG. But people seem to consistently read that as AA. I'd rather raise 3-4BB and hope to get re-raised.
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:31 PM
Endlessdownswing Endlessdownswing is offline
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Default Re: UTG limp bluff raise - how often?

yeah limping with big pairs in early position can be a good idea to mix your play if theres a guy behind you raisng about a third of his hands.
You obviously only wanna do it with AJ and such hands against an opponent you think will lay down his hand 'cause you definetely dont want get called and then have top play the hand OOP
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: UTG limp bluff raise - how often?

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yeah limping with big pairs in early position can be a good idea to mix your play if theres a guy behind you raisng about a third of his hands.
You obviously only wanna do it with AJ and such hands against an opponent you think will lay down his hand 'cause you definetely dont want get called and then have top play the hand OOP

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Why would this matter what strength hand we do this with, If you're doing it with something other then aa, kk, you're pretty much playing it as a bluff.
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Old 07-13-2006, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: UTG limp bluff raise - how often?

I agree with Al on this. In SS, your opponents may not understand what you are doing with an UTG limp bluff re-raise and you may just end up costing yourself a lot of money. I think obviously at the higher levels where you have a more cerebral player, you can pull of such a play, but if you're going to do it, I wouldn't do it too often and make sure your re-raise accomplishes it's purpose, which, suffice it to say, would be to end the hand NOW.
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Old 07-13-2006, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: UTG limp bluff raise - how often?

It would take such an unusual situation to make this play better than openraising it's hardly worth considering.

Also, don't openlimp KJ.
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