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Old 07-02-2006, 06:38 PM
samoleus samoleus is offline
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Hand from today. I thought this was fairly straightforward, and would probably play it again the same way. But after the hand, a player that I consider to be good actually said that I played this hand very horribly. I went back and forth with him about it in the chat, and ultimately, he asked me to post it. Would like to hear if you thought I played this well.

5-10 6-max. The important opponent in this hand (BB) has about 1600 to start the hand and I cover. Two limps, cutoff raises to 55. I reraise to 155 from the button with pocket kings. Small blind folds. Big blind reraises to 500. Everyone folds to me. I call. 1080 in the pot. Flop is 9 high and uncoordinated. He moves all in for about 1100. I fold.

The player that told me that I butchered the hand said that "nothing changed" with the flop. If my hand was ahead - and calling the 500 was OK, then it was still ahead on the flop. He contends that I should have either played for all of my chips or folded to the flop reraise.

I disagree. I think that while aces is a possiblity for him (after all, he did put in a third raise), I do not have enough information to assume that and fold over his hand range. But when I get the additional bit of information of him moving all-in on the flop, then I am convinced enough that he has aces that I can fold.

I didn't think this was a particularly interesting hand, but the player that I was arguing with asked me to post it and see what you all thought.
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Old 07-02-2006, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: I thought this was fairly straightforward

I think if you call preflop for 500 and fold this its burnign money. Against you, he will do this with QQ as much as AA.
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Old 07-02-2006, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: I thought this was fairly straightforward

i agree with the other player.
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Old 07-02-2006, 06:47 PM
SmackinYaUp SmackinYaUp is offline
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Default Re: I thought this was fairly straightforward

I think he was right in that nothing changed on the flop. If someone puts 50BB in preflop, they are obviously pushing for one PSB on the flop whether they have AA or 72o. I thought that the point of calling a preflop re-raise like that was to give villains a chance to push on the flop with an inferior hand. Why even spend 50BB preflop just to fold on the flop? The only information you gained is that you're now ahead of AK. Its up to you to decide if he has AA or not preflop, but I don't think that's the point of your post.
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Old 07-02-2006, 06:48 PM
hit_the_set hit_the_set is offline
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Default Re: I thought this was fairly straightforward

Gotta go with your friend here.

Are you really playing KK for set value in this spot?
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Old 07-02-2006, 06:48 PM
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Default Re: I thought this was fairly straightforward

I agree with the other player. The BB's 4betting range can't be that big. Do you think he checks QQ/KK on the flop? I take it you believe he does check AK (although I'm not sure he even plays that preflop).

I'm curious as to what you think his 4betting range is?
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Old 07-02-2006, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: I thought this was fairly straightforward

if you didnt used to call these, you better start now that you posted this fold.
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Old 07-02-2006, 06:51 PM
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Default Re: I thought this was fairly straightforward

LMAO is this serious..........
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Old 07-02-2006, 06:54 PM
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Default Re: I thought this was fairly straightforward

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Gotta go with your friend here.

Are you really playing KK for set value in this spot?

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Old 07-02-2006, 06:55 PM
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Default Re: I thought this was fairly straightforward

yeah no way this is serious....
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