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Old 07-26-2005, 09:37 PM
krishan krishan is offline
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Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) http://216.119.70.224/converter/hhconverter.pl

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, CO calls, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB calls, MP calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, MP calls, CO calls, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, MP calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (12.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, MP calls, CO calls, Hero ...

And the questions is in addition to the turn action, did my hand get worse or better on the turn? And did I make a mistake on the flop?

Krishan
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Old 07-26-2005, 09:41 PM
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first when it gets to you im 50/50 between 3betting and calling. when it comes back to you after the 3 bet id cap it. on the turn your hand got worse- 3 broadways mean one more and you're looking at a straight and now another club could be scary as well.
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Old 07-26-2005, 09:42 PM
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I would 3-bet the flop in a heartbeat with top 2..SB most likely is making a continuation bet and BB is raising to protect his hand...if you 3-bet then maybe SB folds, chances are not but its a larger chance he fold to 2 more coming back moreso than just one more....As for the turn I would just call down now. Theres always the chance that SB raised with AJ and now has the top two or he could have AA JJ or even TT.

Edit: Now that I look at it again there could also be a straight out there and even more so after the turn. KQ flopped the OESD off the flop so that hand would not be folding and now the Ace completed the nut straight.
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Old 07-26-2005, 09:49 PM
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on the turn your hand got worse

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This is correct, my hand definitely got worse.

Krishan
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Old 07-26-2005, 09:49 PM
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krishan: why are you posting a 5/10 6-handed hand in the micros? you typically post in HUSH.
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Old 07-26-2005, 09:50 PM
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krishan: why are you posting a 5/10 6-handed hand in the micros?

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Because it's a really interesting hand. And in the end, poker is just poker.

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Old 07-26-2005, 09:50 PM
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TJo should not be paying for raises, even after money is in the pot. I actually lost a lot of money on this starting hand my first 3k hands or so, because I saw it as a calling hand in late position, which now I believe is a mistake unless your on the button without a raise or in the SB.

3 and 4 bet the flop, a good portion of the time your way ahead. That is unless SB is holding quads. It is most likely he has 88 though, because you hold the other J and T - and that is not a raising hand most of the time.

On the turn, you may have some issues with straight draws being made. I would call 1 BB to see the river.

EDIT - Didn't realize this was 6 max, and I know nothing about starting hands there, so sorry if I made an error on the starting hand of TJo.
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Old 07-26-2005, 09:51 PM
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yeah i know. i was just asking. it's kind of a rare thing. haven't seen you post in this forum for a long time.

i don't see many hands that are willing to 3-bet that flop and continue to lead into a field of 4 when an A falls. you're in trouble IMO.
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Old 07-26-2005, 09:52 PM
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3 and 4 bet the flop, a good portion of the time your way ahead.

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What sort of equity do you think I have on the flop?

Krishan
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Old 07-26-2005, 09:52 PM
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Hm. No flop 3-bet? Were you planning on raising a turn blank?
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