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Old 06-19-2006, 03:25 PM
PacMann PacMann is offline
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Default (109) Bubble two pair with short stack about to post

PartyPoker $109 Speed Tournament, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t264)
Button (t1323)
SB (t12886)
Hero (t5527)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB (Thinks forever) calls t300, Hero checks

Flop: (t1200) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">SB bets t800</font>, Hero??

Last hand he made a big call with AT for all but T200 of his chips on a board of AK8r. So he doesn't seem afraid to gamble with a micro stack about to post.
Preflop I nearly typed in the chat for him to push any two.
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Old 06-19-2006, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: (109) Bubble two pair with short stack about to post

stick it in here. the pot is big enough to take now.
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Old 06-19-2006, 03:36 PM
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Default Re: (109) Bubble two pair with short stack about to post

I would try for more chips here. Yeah, the pot is decent now, but you've got a great chance to get more chips from the big stack. Why not just call? The only real danger is giving diamonds a peek.
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Old 06-19-2006, 03:39 PM
Kn0wClue Kn0wClue is offline
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Default Re: (109) Bubble two pair with short stack about to post

with other stacks being the way they are taking the pot now is good. any dia,9,8,7,6,4 or him pairing his over card if he has a 7 or 5 could cost us the pot and bust us.
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Old 06-19-2006, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: (109) Bubble two pair with short stack about to post

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I would try for more chips here. Yeah, the pot is decent now, but you've got a great chance to get more chips from the big stack. Why not just call? The only real danger is giving diamonds a peek.

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Push you don't want a call here.
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Old 06-19-2006, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: (109) Bubble two pair with short stack about to post

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with other stacks being the way they are taking the pot now is good. any dia,9,8,7,6,4 or him pairing his over card if he has a 7 or 5 could cost us the pot and bust us.

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Which is why I wouldn't risk a push to win a pot this size. Calling the flop doesn't kill us since we still retain the ability to make future decisions in position.

Also, if he has any piece/draw he might call risking just less than half his stack to virtually win the tournament. If he's got crap, then the turn isn't going to put him ahead &amp; he might bet again.

Of course I expect many people to say push here, but I still am not a fan.
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Old 06-19-2006, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: (109) Bubble two pair with short stack about to post

I think this is a clear push. You have 2 pair. I don't see how you can fold. If you call, you start getting yourself in trouble with scare cards.
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Old 06-19-2006, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: (109) Bubble two pair with short stack about to post

Anyone comfortable with postflop play care to chime in?
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Old 06-19-2006, 05:08 PM
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Anyone comfortable with postflop play care to chime in?

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Did you notice that we're on the bubble and there are 2 other players with a combined 1500 chips? If you slowplay this, you're crazy.
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Old 06-19-2006, 05:19 PM
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Anyone comfortable with postflop play care to chime in?

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Why are you playing if you are really afraid of any overcard/pair or flush draw here calling? Don't forget that you are in commanding position if he donks this off to you on a draw. How far you are ahead + enourmous amount of FE = instapush.

I understand that you don't want to risk bubbling with those two shorties, but by taking that weak stance you are telling yourself you will never stand up to a big stack on the bubble. No one wants to bust here, but letting a big stack run you over whenever you are second in chips is just asking for less money over time.
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