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Since I had 5 or 6 people post questions and I had no desire to hijack or take away from Degen's thread. I figured i"d make my own and just answer it here and let it be that.
Here's the original post. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...rue#Post6187785 Guess I'll post the responses. |
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Microbet asked
TPupAZ, Did you know the older kids (21 yo scumbag, and 18 yo scumbag in training) when they were younger? Were they good kids? Are the 15 and 13 yo next in the scumbag line? They are all together? It's interesting that such a group sticks together through all those moves. The oldest has always been a scumbag. Parents started giving him beer when he was 15 - he gets high with the parents (mind you he has 3 kids of his own). Never has had a job. We had him and his wife living with us for 3 months before (when she was pregnant with her first child and we wanted to help), and he said he applied for a bunch of jobs. When they moved back with his parents, we found all the applications in the couch, not even filled out. The 18 year old has a good heart, but looks up to me and has a habit of embelishing his stories probably to try and make himself look cool for me. I know they're full of [censored] but I cant hate on that since I know I do the same with my friends sometimes... No matter where they move, he always gets a job within two days and is a hard worker, I just see him starting to go down hill. Been trying to get him in the army or military. The 15 is getting there but he's actually using his brain. In his logic, he figured if he caused problems, the parents would send him away. Well it worked, he beat the hell out of everyone and his parents shippped him off to us for 3 months (he left last month). The only time I've seen him cry was when he got off the bus and we picked him up, and when we had to put him back on the bus. The 13 year old is secretly trying to run away to live with us. Those two boys are really the best, they always help out, they just want to go to school. Its really sad to hear them begging their mom to please let them go to school. They are all together still. The oldest practically has his parents (my in laws who cant take care of themselves) supporting him and the 3 kids. The younger ones have no choice to be honest. Plus they have no means to break off. The kids (21, 18) are too dependant on the parents and falling into their habits as well. |
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StevieG asked
Would you consider taking them in and keeping them under your roof?I am not implying that you should take the boys in, but I am curious. Seems to me you have tried to help, and I can't imagine what it is like for you to have in-laws like this. Yes I would take the younger ones in a heartbeat. Its not easy right now, my wife is a stay at home mom, my day job salary and my poker money is what makes our world click right now. We have two kids of our own as well, so it wouldnt be easy, but we'd have to make it as best we could I'd say. I wouldnt question taking the boys in, I'd jump at it. Too bad CPS wont / cant help us and my in-laws are scumbags. Consider it this way, when the whole family is staying with us (which they cant anymore since their credit with me is BUSTO), I have to supply food for 14 people. Not to mention I have 14 people living in my house at the same time. Ya I can do without my in laws heh. |
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Isura asked
Isn't there some laws in the US about keeping kids out of school ? Not in Arizona at least. We've contacted CPS - DES - the whole nine yards. We've reported them for selling their food stamps, we've reported them for filing bogus ACHHS (insurance) claims. We've reported them for their drug smuggling and their child abuse. Nothing comes to fruition. |
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cdxx said
it would be awesome if you took them in, saw them graduate and go to college. pay it forward. It'd be awesome just to have them eating 3 meals a day. When the 15 year old stayed with us, he couldnt believe we gave him his own room to sleep in. He told us he hadnt slept in a bed in months. Since they stay in motels, most of them sleep on the floor, even the very little ones (the 21 year olds kids) |
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I wouldnt question taking the boys in, I'd jump at it. Too bad CPS wont / cant help us and my in-laws are scumbags. [/ QUOTE ] If the parents are neglectful, and not even doing the basics of getting the kids in school, why wouldn't Children's Protective Services help you get custody of them? Again, touched by your willingness to help out your in-laws and curious as to why you are unable to. Thanks for sharing this here. |
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How was your wife able to turn out relatively well (I assume)?
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If the parents are neglectful, and not even doing the basics of getting the kids in school, why wouldn't Children's Protective Services help you get custody of them? Again, touched by your willingness to help out your in-laws and curious as to why you are unable to. Thanks for sharing this here. [/ QUOTE ] Well one fact is they move every 1 - 2 months. Tough to keep up with them in that retrospect. 2nd is , they move literally all over the state of arizona. Here's a map of where they've lived since last October (the last time they were at our old house)
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