Sticky question

[supercheval]

Im not sure to understand how stickies work.. Let's say I have 500$ in sticky 2 in my account.(nothing else) I play one hand for 250$ and lose. Let's say I play another hand of 250$ and win it. Will I be able to withdraw 250?

[IggyWH]

No, you can't make a withdrawal unless your balance is over the bonus amount.

[Freakin]

There are some casinos which deduct losses from the bonus (if you have no more regular balance). If you were playing one of these, then it would work like that.

[The Man in Black]

Yeah. On all of the major software providers, the sticky stays in your account until you cashout and the bonus is removed from your cashout or your balance reachs zero.

[Yobz]

Am I playing sticky's correctly:

Play much higher stakes than I normally would. For example, I have a $250 deposit and a $250 bonus. I play $100 a hand until I hit a "target", maybe $1000 or so (or is doubling your D+B unreasonable?). Then I finish the WR and cash out?

How do I determine my EV when I have a target?

Thanks guys!

[WLVRYN]

OP, signup at Casinobonuspages and complete 2 casinos through them. You can get access to the members only stuff that breaks down the differences between sticky type 1 and type 2 bonuses, and also strategies to use on each.

Yobz, that is a good way to play stickies. It leaves you the ability to split/double in BJ, which is what you need to minimize HA. Some people try to go all or nothing

I have been doing some of the Playtechs a bit differently lately though (especially since I always seem to lose the first hand and many of the table limits have been lowered to $100). I play $25 per hand and bet progressively. CBP has said, and I tend to agree, that their software is pretty streaky, so this strategy can work well. I add another $25 to my bet for each hand in a row I win. When I lose, I drop back to $25. If I hit a few good streaks, I drop back down to $5 or $10 a hand to grind out the rest of the WR. My targets are usually about 5 times my deposit (excluding any bonus they give), so doubling your D+B doesnt sound unreasonable.

[DuderinoAB]

I'm very interested in the math behind this. My normal strategy with stickies is all in on one hand and then play out with flat betting if I win. I don't know the exact math, but I'd guess your average single hand of blackjack gives the player app. 47-48% chance of winning. Obviously, especially for sites with high wr, you're going to give back a bit of your winnings when finishing the wr, but I doubt you are mathematically a favorite to hit your target making bets that are 20% of your starting stack and trying to reach double your starting stack. You can't mathematically be greater than 47% to win here can you? My odds might be a bit off, and, like I said, I'd like to know the math here...I don't necessarily know it. I guess I'm just curious to see some real evidence one way or the other.
Thanks,
Dude

[IggyWH]

Duderino,

You give quite a bit HA in BJ by not being able to double or split so all-in on 1 hand isn't considered the optimal strategy.

[Thremp]

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Duderino,

You give quite a bit HA in BJ by not being able to double or split so all-in on 1 hand isn't considered the optimal strategy.

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By quite a bit the HA could be around 8x or more of the real HA.

It's almost better to throw it down on roulette all on black than bet it all on a BJ hand. Well if it wasn't banned.

[WLVRYN]

It sounds like Iggy and Thremp covered the reasons for not betting everything on one hand.

In my case, I had a really bad run of sticky losses by betting big hands right off the bat (I would usually bet 25% of my deposit). It might have been more of a psychological reason that I wanted to play more than 5 hands of BJ for my several hundered dollar deposits, but I started betting smaller (but still bigger than normal for me), but using a progressive system. I still bust stickies every once in a while, but my number of big wins has gone up significantly. I dont know if the software really is streaky or not, but a string of 6-8 wins in row happening a couple times on a deposit can easily lead to a nice cashout.