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Old 05-20-2006, 11:11 AM
Dakine69 Dakine69 is offline
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Default 50/100 Commerce River Decision

I have played with villian 4 or 5 sessions-
He is loose preflop, calls raises out of position often.
postflop:
calling station (will call with or without proper odds for draws,etc.)
slow plays
capable of check raising made hands and bluffs on all streets. Basically, hard to put him on hands.

I think villian perceives me as a tricky solid player (I have moved him off of overpairs and shown in the past)
Villian has around 10k and I cover

folded to me in mp and I raise to 400 (standard raise for me) with 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

only villian calls in small blind

flop: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] pot:900

villian checks and I check behind. villian could have anything but most likely nothing and I want to string him along

turn: A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Villian checks and I bet 600.
Villian miniraises 600 more. I reraise to 2600 and villian thinks for a short bit and calls 2000 more.

river: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] pot: 7300
Villian checks pretty quickly, hero???

Results and thought process to follow
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Old 05-20-2006, 11:17 AM
FoxwoodsFiend FoxwoodsFiend is offline
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Default Re: 50/100 Commerce River Decision

Your flop play is very bad. If you're going to be playing 36s it's criminal to not try playing a big pot when you flop the nuts with it.

As it is, I probably throw out 4500 and call a c/r all in.
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Old 05-20-2006, 11:28 AM
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Old 05-20-2006, 11:30 AM
fslexcduck fslexcduck is offline
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Default Re: 50/100 Commerce River Decision

checking this river would be way more criminal than not betting the flop.

so first of all, given the history between you and villain, bet the flop. bet half pot, like 400 or so if you think there is a good chance he will play back at you. then use position to stack.

given the way the hand played out, either shove the river if he is capable of making big calls, or bet 4000 or something... not betting here is insane.
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Old 05-20-2006, 11:43 AM
ieatmonkies ieatmonkies is offline
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Default Re: 50/100 Commerce River Decision

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postflop:
calling station (will call with or without proper odds for draws,etc.)

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and

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(I have moved him off of overpairs and shown in the past)

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don't compute.
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Old 05-20-2006, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: 50/100 Commerce River Decision

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postflop:
calling station (will call with or without proper odds for draws,etc.)
slow plays
capable of check raising made hands and bluffs on all streets

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So why would you check the flop?
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Old 05-20-2006, 01:10 PM
jamazon jamazon is offline
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Default Re: 50/100 Commerce River Decision

Shove.
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Old 05-20-2006, 01:34 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: 50/100 Commerce River Decision

Bet the flop for sure.
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Old 05-20-2006, 01:53 PM
El Diablo El Diablo is offline
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Default Re: 50/100 Commerce River Decision

D,

Wow. That is the perfect flop for you to bet against this opponent. I really, really can't understand your flop check.
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Old 05-20-2006, 02:03 PM
MDMA MDMA is offline
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Default Re: 50/100 Commerce River Decision

Jeez..it's post like these and those by daliman etc that make the regulars disappear, and I kind of like reading what the people that really DOES know poker has to say. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] No offence, and I'm obviously a newbie compared to most of the guys here, but the forum is going down the drain with all these really, really stupid posts clogging up the forum :/
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