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Old 12-18-2006, 12:41 AM
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Default Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It

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This is on a sample of 13400 hands, but I am an expert at this game and have played all stakes and varieties to the tune of millions of hands, and I know variance and I can honestly foresee a winrate of at least 16BB/100 sustaining to the 50K hand mark.

Can anyone top this?


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Sooo, by 31 BB/100 you actually meant 16BB /100? This is a strange method of communication where you halve every number you use to get the truth.

I am 100% certain this coin will come up heads

*comes up tails*

like i said; 50% certain.
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Old 12-18-2006, 12:53 AM
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I averaged about 20BB/hr in a .50/$1 home game with terrible opposition over the course of a full year. But against reasonable opposition, this is impossible. 16BB/100 is a pretty lofty goal. Good luck. If you're not going to present the system for discussion, though, doesn't this belong in BBV?

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah they moved it here. Considering I am dealing with some theories that I developed that are proving incredibly potent and profitable, I cannot divulge the strategies/theories at hand. Besides my students, whom I pointed to this thread to follow, are screaming at me not to let anyone here know about it. I know that sucks, but it definitely makes it a BBV post at this point. I'm ok with that. But I am looking for some constructive discusson, not here to toot my horn at all.

Yeah I think the game you were in sounds pretty juicy. Kudos for finding it and exploiting it. I hope it was fun. Thanks for letting me know it's possible to get over 10BB/100 at NL. What stakes were you playing?

Evan Evans

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"i'm not going to supply any concrete evidence or proof, but my theories are sound and i want to discuss them, though i wont tell you them"
the gist of this guys post, this is either an A++ gimmick or you are as stupid as you sound, i think 9.5/10
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Old 12-18-2006, 12:56 AM
Evan Evans Evan Evans is offline
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Default Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It

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What you're saying is kind of inconsistent...

First, you have a "secret system" that yields 30BB/100 as a sustainable winrate. In the next breath, you're "forseeing" a 16BB/100 winrate. The same with your sample sizes. One minute you've played several systems through millions of hands, suddenly it's only 13.4k hands.

This is a brag post for BBV, at best.

[/ QUOTE ]Gonso,

I know you don't know me (apparently), but I respect your post(s) here and what you are saying .. hopefully you'll respect mine as well. Let me just clarify my original post, cause I see it was misunderstood/took the wrong way.

Regarding millions of hands, I was referring to my experience as a Hold'Em player. I've played around 3 million tracked hands. Period. Nothing to do with this "system" other than how that wisdom played into it.

Regarding my 16BB/100 winrate I was referring to a low threshold point for a foreseeable extrapolation of the current 13k hand 30BB/100 showing.

Evan Evans
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Old 12-18-2006, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It

post a graph or shut up, that's all.
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Old 12-18-2006, 01:03 AM
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I averaged about 20BB/hr in a .50/$1 home game with terrible opposition over the course of a full year. But against reasonable opposition, this is impossible. 16BB/100 is a pretty lofty goal. Good luck. If you're not going to present the system for discussion, though, doesn't this belong in BBV?

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah they moved it here. Considering I am dealing with some theories that I developed that are proving incredibly potent and profitable, I cannot divulge the strategies/theories at hand. Besides my students, whom I pointed to this thread to follow, are screaming at me not to let anyone here know about it. I know that sucks, but it definitely makes it a BBV post at this point. I'm ok with that. But I am looking for some constructive discusson, not here to toot my horn at all.

Yeah I think the game you were in sounds pretty juicy. Kudos for finding it and exploiting it. I hope it was fun. Thanks for letting me know it's possible to get over 10BB/100 at NL. What stakes were you playing?

Evan Evans

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"i'm not going to supply any concrete evidence or proof, but my theories are sound and i want to discuss them, though i wont tell you them"
the gist of this guys post, this is either an A++ gimmick or you are as stupid as you sound, i think 9.5/10

[/ QUOTE ]No, I am discussing sustainable winrates.

Evan Evans
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Old 12-18-2006, 01:07 AM
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I averaged about 20BB/hr in a .50/$1 home game with terrible opposition over the course of a full year. But against reasonable opposition, this is impossible. 16BB/100 is a pretty lofty goal. Good luck. If you're not going to present the system for discussion, though, doesn't this belong in BBV?

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah they moved it here. Considering I am dealing with some theories that I developed that are proving incredibly potent and profitable, I cannot divulge the strategies/theories at hand. Besides my students, whom I pointed to this thread to follow, are screaming at me not to let anyone here know about it. I know that sucks, but it definitely makes it a BBV post at this point. I'm ok with that. But I am looking for some constructive discusson, not here to toot my horn at all.

Yeah I think the game you were in sounds pretty juicy. Kudos for finding it and exploiting it. I hope it was fun. Thanks for letting me know it's possible to get over 10BB/100 at NL. What stakes were you playing?

Evan Evans

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"i'm not going to supply any concrete evidence or proof, but my theories are sound and i want to discuss them, though i wont tell you them"
the gist of this guys post, this is either an A++ gimmick or you are as stupid as you sound, i think 9.5/10

[/ QUOTE ]No, I am discussing sustainable winrates.

Evan Evans

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"i'm starting a business, i plan to be very profitable within my first year and always be extremely profitable, lets discuss it, though i can't tell you what my business does because you might take my idea"

there is a problem, DUCY?
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Old 12-18-2006, 01:07 AM
Evan Evans Evan Evans is offline
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Default Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It

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i bet his secret system involves folding KK preflop.

[/ QUOTE ]I bet your system involves never folding it preflop.

Go ahead and call KK allin everytie you get it at $100NL+. You'll be in for a surprise when you look at your winrate with KK. Obviously. Since you have some affinity towards never folding KK preflop.

Evan Evans
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Old 12-18-2006, 01:08 AM
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Default Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It

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I averaged about 20BB/hr in a .50/$1 home game with terrible opposition over the course of a full year. But against reasonable opposition, this is impossible. 16BB/100 is a pretty lofty goal. Good luck. If you're not going to present the system for discussion, though, doesn't this belong in BBV?

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah they moved it here. Considering I am dealing with some theories that I developed that are proving incredibly potent and profitable, I cannot divulge the strategies/theories at hand. Besides my students, whom I pointed to this thread to follow, are screaming at me not to let anyone here know about it. I know that sucks, but it definitely makes it a BBV post at this point. I'm ok with that. But I am looking for some constructive discusson, not here to toot my horn at all.

Yeah I think the game you were in sounds pretty juicy. Kudos for finding it and exploiting it. I hope it was fun. Thanks for letting me know it's possible to get over 10BB/100 at NL. What stakes were you playing?

Evan Evans

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"i'm not going to supply any concrete evidence or proof, but my theories are sound and i want to discuss them, though i wont tell you them"
the gist of this guys post, this is either an A++ gimmick or you are as stupid as you sound, i think 9.5/10

[/ QUOTE ]No, I am discussing sustainable winrates.

Evan Evans

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"i'm starting a business, i plan to be very profitable within my first year and always be extremely profitable, lets discuss it, though i can't tell you what my business does because you might take my idea"

there is a problem, DUCY?

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why are you using logic? this is bbv.
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Old 12-18-2006, 01:09 AM
Evan Evans Evan Evans is offline
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Default Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It

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This is on a sample of 13400 hands, but I am an expert at this game and have played all stakes and varieties to the tune of millions of hands, and I know variance and I can honestly foresee a winrate of at least 16BB/100 sustaining to the 50K hand mark.

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Calculate a 99% confidence interval for the winrate. k tnx

[/ QUOTE ]Tell me how I do that with PT and I will. k tnx

Evan Evans
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Old 12-18-2006, 01:13 AM
Evan Evans Evan Evans is offline
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Default Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It

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I'm pretty sure 15+ptbb/100 is easily attainable for a good player at 100-200nl. At Party anyway... I've sustained 10ptbb/100 over 70k hands 6-tabling and I suck at poker.

[/ QUOTE ]Ok awesome. Yeah I was talking bb/100 btw, not BB/100 since there is no BB in NL.

Thanks for the feedback!

Evan Evans
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