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Old 03-24-2006, 11:54 PM
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Default Re: Hee Seop Choi to the Red Sox, for NOTHING.

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That's a horrible definition.

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Uh, no it isn't.

Being league-average is pretty good in the MLB. It's tough to run across a freely available league-average player. When you can get a player who is better than league-average for nothing, you have done well.
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Old 03-25-2006, 12:08 AM
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Default Re: Hee Seop Choi to the Red Sox, for NOTHING.

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When you can get a player who is better than league-average for nothing, you have done well.

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THAT'S the caveat you didn't mention in the previous post. If someone is making $15 mil/year, and is above average, it doesn't necessarily make them a valuable asset. The correlation between performance, and cost, is what determines that in my book.

So, for the Red Sox, this was an easy move. It doesn't even matter if Choi turns out to do anything or not. For the price, it's like a free lottery ticket for them, they can have him around, and if he blossoms, great. If not, they didn't give up anything for him.

There's really nothing else to discuss, frankly. This thread sucks.
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Old 03-25-2006, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: Hee Seop Choi to the Red Sox, for NOTHING.

You seem like you know nothing about baseball and/or you are extremely biased.
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Old 03-25-2006, 12:27 AM
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Default Re: Hee Seop Choi to the Red Sox, for NOTHING.

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THAT'S the caveat you didn't mention in the previous post. If someone is making $15 mil/year, and is above average, it doesn't necessarily make them a valuable asset. The correlation between performance, and cost, is what determines that in my book.

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I agree, but it should be pretty obvious that Hee Seop Choi doesn't make $15 million.
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Old 03-25-2006, 12:40 AM
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Default Re: Hee Seop Choi to the Red Sox, for NOTHING.

So, for the Red Sox, this was an easy move. It doesn't even matter if Choi turns out to do anything or not.

he has already turned out to be a quality player, so anything else is a coup.

i almost hope he doesnt have any options left, so it will force the front office in boston to cut potential dead weight. leaving guys like lowell and snow (if they do indeed suck) on the roster with francona as MGR is a recipe for wasted AB's.
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Old 03-25-2006, 12:41 AM
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Default Re: Hee Seop Choi to the Red Sox, for NOTHING.

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That's a horrible definition.

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Uh, no it isn't.

Being league-average is pretty good in the MLB. It's tough to run across a freely available league-average player. When you can get a player who is better than league-average for nothing, you have done well.

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Any definition that does not factor in price is horrible.
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Old 03-25-2006, 12:44 AM
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THAT'S the caveat you didn't mention in the previous post. If someone is making $15 mil/year, and is above average, it doesn't necessarily make them a valuable asset. The correlation between performance, and cost, is what determines that in my book.

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I agree, but it should be pretty obvious that Hee Seop Choi doesn't make $15 million.

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So in order for someone to be valuable while making the minimum, they have to be above average? Of course not.
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Old 03-25-2006, 01:22 AM
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Default Re: Hee Seop Choi to the Red Sox, for NOTHING.

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Any definition that does not factor in price is horrible.

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Whether or not a player is a valuable asset to a team has no bearing on price. Hee Seop Choi is still a valuable asset at $20 million, he is not just an efficient asset.
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Old 03-25-2006, 01:33 AM
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Agree to disagree, I guess.
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Old 03-25-2006, 02:04 AM
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Default Re: Hee Seop Choi to the Red Sox, for NOTHING.

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the gap between the NYY and boston keeps closing.

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O Rly?

What positions does Boston have an advantage at besides LF and C? Damon>Crisp, Sheffield>>Nixon, A-Rod>>Mueller, Jeter>whoever the SS is, Cano>whoever the 2B is, Giambi>Choi.

Only Varitek and Manny are better out of the 8 position players.
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