The poker gods giveth and they taketh away

[Dan Bitel]

I really really hate spots like this. Pretty new to the table, so no reads.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $141
UTG+1: $59.85
CO: $216.10
Hero: $217
SB: $181.17
BB: $196.09

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $8</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($17, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $12</font>, BB calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($41, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $30</font>, BB calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($101, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $70</font>, Hero?????

[kitaristi0]

Ugly. I fold.

[evets]

As played I fold.

On the turn, I think pushing has merit. You don't want to give odds to flush chasers, and you may stack 99 and sets. Thoughts? 3/4 pot can't be optimal here, can it?

[aces_dad]

I'd hate to give AKs a freeroll here, though it's just one of his hands.

If villian did have AKs though I'd expect him to invest much more on the turn, which you can't know until he just calls your bet.

[evets]

He can't have AKs, at least not one we are worried about. We are holding the naked ace of spades.

Incidentally, thoughts on shoving the river with the naked ace? In my opinion this is -EV because stacks aren't deep enough and this villain may not be good enough to lay down his small flush. I am guessing on this since I am not very familiar with $100NL, but is this worth considering?

[aces_dad]

Yeah you're right there is no freeroll chance on the turn. If we overpot it though we lose value from weaker hands that won't chase.

With villian having less than 80 behind on river I don't think pushing to fold small flush works against an unknown often enough here. This is 200NL btw.

[FishNChips]

Its not pretty, but I'm calling here.

Reasons to fold:
1 - flush got there
2 - boat got there

Reasons to call:
1 - we have the As so villain is a little less likely to be chasing a flush here with the betting we've done.
2 - if he boated, he did it with JT or QT because he would have popped us earlier with a set given that scary board.
3 - villain could easily float AT on the flop, picked up a pair on the turn, and think his trips are good on the river
4 - we're getting &gt; 2:1 on our call here, which isn't great, but the list of hands that villain reasonably has that beat us is fairly short.

I'm calling this bet.

FishNChips

[mb2696]

sorry for my ignorance, but what does "float" mean?

thanks

[Grunch]

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sorry for my ignorance, but what does "float" mean?

thanks

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To call a bet one one street with the sole intention of raising to steal on a future street.

[poincaraux]

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sorry for my ignorance, but what does "float" mean?

thanks

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To call a bet one one street with the sole intention of raising to steal on a future street.

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Hey Grunch (or any other mod, of course), shouldn't this be in the main sticky somewhere prominent?