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Old 04-23-2007, 08:47 PM
Foucault Foucault is offline
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Default Re: A hand vs Rizen in stars 109 double stack

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you dont think rizen folds QQ to a raise on this dry-ass board?

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The fact that it's dry is what makes it easier to fold QQ.
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Old 04-23-2007, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: A hand vs Rizen in stars 109 double stack

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I don't think his 3betting range first hand OOP is that wide esp vs a 2+2er

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I agree with this statement.
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Old 04-23-2007, 08:49 PM
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Default Re: A hand vs Rizen in stars 109 double stack

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you dont think rizen folds QQ to a raise on this dry-ass board?

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The fact that it's dry is what makes it easier to fold QQ.

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ummm yeah... i think you read wrong. we're in agreement that he should instafold QQ.

and if anyone says anything that even rhymes with exploitable re: instafolding QQ to a raise here, just quit life.
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Old 04-23-2007, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: A hand vs Rizen in stars 109 double stack

this is such an easy flop raise
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Old 04-23-2007, 09:09 PM
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Default Re: A hand vs Rizen in stars 109 double stack

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this is such an easy flop raise

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levelling us?
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Old 04-23-2007, 09:36 PM
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Default Re: A hand vs Rizen in stars 109 double stack

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this is such an easy flop raise

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and this ladies and gentlemen is why aejones is the best mtt player. Always does the right thing.
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Old 04-23-2007, 10:01 PM
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Default Re: A hand vs Rizen in stars 109 double stack

What does he think we have when we flat call the flop Q9o? There is pretty much no hand that should be calling on that flop- therefore a call smells.
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Old 04-23-2007, 10:20 PM
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Default Re: A hand vs Rizen in stars 109 double stack

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What does he think we have when we flat call the flop Q9o? There is pretty much no hand that should be calling on that flop- therefore a call smells.

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you're absolutely right.

if we had TT we should definitely either know he has an overpair and fold flop or "put him on AK" and raise.

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Old 04-23-2007, 11:19 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: A hand vs Rizen in stars 109 double stack

I don't RR PF here because no one RRs here since Rizen can fold QQ to a 4 bet from a standard well known MTT player that knows he's Rizen and that would suck. Run on sentence.

so anyway, against most people I just stick it in on the flop but Rizen can still actually fold QQ here so I call one more time.
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Old 04-23-2007, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: A hand vs Rizen in stars 109 double stack

Calling preflop is good as his 3b range is a lot wider than 5b or calling 4b.

Calling flop and raising both seem okay to me. I probably call to induce a double barrel bluff/thin value.
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