A hand vs Rizen in stars 109 double stack
 

First hand, starting bank 3k. Rizen and i have played plenty before, but i coudln't say what he thinks of me, but know's i'm not a donk.

Blinds 10/20, hero holds AA on the button, Rizen is SB.

Preflop: Folds to hero, hero raises to 60, Rizen reraises to 200, BB folds, hero calls.

Flop: 9 3 2 rainbow (pot 420)
Rizen bets 300, hero?


Best line to extract maximum value pre? Anyone ever 4 bet pre instead?

Re: A hand vs Rizen in stars 109 double stack
 

calls and hopes board comes 93222

pretty much just keep calling and then shove non Q-K rivers

Re: A hand vs Rizen in stars 109 double stack
 

I like a raise on the flop I don't see him not putting in the rest with a big OP. Any other hand is shutting down on turns anyway.

Re: A hand vs Rizen in stars 109 double stack
 

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I like a raise on the flop I don't see him not putting in the rest with a big OP. Any other hand is shutting down on turns anyway.

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QFT

Re: A hand vs Rizen in stars 109 double stack
 

this is why i love being me, i can 4 bet pf and people will bluff 5 bet shove at me

Re: A hand vs Rizen in stars 109 double stack
 

you dont think rizen folds QQ to a raise on this dry-ass board?

Re: A hand vs Rizen in stars 109 double stack
 

Wrote up a whole long thing on the flop, then realized that it's a really trivial call. He's betting the turn a lot after we call on this board, with both bluffs and thin value bets, and he'll usually commit himself on the river with the hands that would call or 3-bet if we raised the flop.

Raise more preflop. Just drill that into your head and your ROI will go up.

I sometimes 4-bet preflop, but calling's fine. Against some people, one play or the other can be really really bad. If you're even just slightly deeper (175 BBs or so), you should be 4-betting this much more frequently against almost anyone.

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Wrote up a whole long thing on the flop, then realized that it's a really trivial call. He's betting the turn a lot after we call on this board, with both bluffs and thin value bets, and he'll usually commit himself on the river with the hands that would call or 3-bet if we raised the flop.

Raise more preflop. Just drill that into your head and your ROI will go up.

I sometimes 4-bet preflop, but calling's fine. Against some people, one play or the other can be really really bad. If you're even just slightly deeper (175 BBs or so), you should be 4-betting this much more frequently against almost anyone.

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i agree here
only 4-bet this every so often...
just call flop bet
raise turn
he most likely has a big pair here
even tho he wont give up on it so fast alarm bells would start to ring when you reraise him on the flop
and at least on the turn you would get a bet from him wich is more money

Re: A hand vs Rizen in stars 109 double stack
 

Im guessing Rizen's reraising range from the SB is fairly thin in the early stages so I quite like the 4bet. From the button, it won't get nearly as much respect and gives him the opportunity to 5 bet if he wants.

Following that line,
flop, I flat call any bet
turn, check behind/call most bets unless he is pot committing himself
river, raise AI/ bet

Re: A hand vs Rizen in stars 109 double stack
 

4-bet pf, raise flop or call flop and don't raise turn. i'd decide which to do based on how wide/narrow u think he's 3-betting here.