Discussion: Common preflop situations

[HitNRunPoster]

1) reraise to 8.5, but calling is fine

2) depends, everything is fine (default fold)

3) I reraise to 6.5 or fold, because I don't know how to play after calling

4) calls

5) folds

6) I actually have a question about this hand... are you more likely to stack someone after raising than you are to win 1/5 of their stack if you limp? Just curious. Anyways, raise to 2.5

7) depends, everything is fine (default raise to $3)

8) call y0

[Grunch]

If I give 2 options, the most common is first.

1: If CO is a blind stealer, raise to 6. If he is a value raiser, raise to 8.

2: Raise to 3
3: Call
4: Raise to 6 or fold
5: Fold or raise to 2
6: Raise to 2.5
7: Raise to 3
8: Call if you can play good postflop, fold otherwise

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A couple of common preflop situations. If you say raise, include also how much to raise to.

For all hands, assume:
50NL, 6 players
100bb stacks
No reads


Hand #1: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, Button calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>
Raise to $8. I don’t mind taking this down preflop, seeing as I’ve got a vulnerable hand OOP. If button is calling with a weaker PP, I don’t want to give him the right odds to hit a set.

Hand #2: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>
Complete. Implied odds are high already for the potential nut flush draw. If instead I hit a pair, I’m not going to want a large pot.

Hand #3: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, 2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>
Without reads, default is to call and see what develops on the flop. Sometimes I will raise to $6.

Hand #4: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $2, folds around, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>
Call. If the raise were from CO or Button, I’d raise to $6.

Hand #5: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red"> Hero? </font>
Raise to $2.

Hand #6: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 fold, MP calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>
Default is to raise to $2.50, but I’m OK with anything between that raise (on the high end) and overlimping. In other words, reads on the rest of the table really make the decision.

Hand #7: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>
Overlimp.

Hand #8: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>
Fold.

[Dr_Jeckyl_00]

I am new to cash, but this is what I think...

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A couple of common preflop situations. If you say raise, include also how much to raise to.

For all hands, assume:
50NL, 6 players
100bb stacks
No reads


Hand #1: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, Button calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>


[/ QUOTE ] call, OOP[ QUOTE ]

Hand #2: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>


[/ QUOTE ] call, OOP[ QUOTE ]

Hand #3: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, 2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

[/ QUOTE ] fold, OOP[ QUOTE ]


Hand #4: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $2, folds around, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

[/ QUOTE ] fold, OOP[ QUOTE ]


Hand #5: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red"> Hero? </font>

[/ QUOTE ] mix it up, mostly call, occassionally raise, OOP[ QUOTE ]


Hand #6: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 fold, MP calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

[/ QUOTE ] raise 5xbb, goot position[ QUOTE ]


Hand #7: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>


[/ QUOTE ] raise 6xbb, goot position[ QUOTE ]


Hand #8: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

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[/ QUOTE ] fold

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3: Call

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This is the AJs from BB to a CO raise, and the majority opinion was to fold. I thought that this was a call (although I understand the arguments for folding). Can you expand on your thoughts for calling?

I like a call even though I'm OOP because with the raise coming from CO, I believe I compare well to his range. I can make a lot of nut draws against a deep-stacked opponent, and may also be able to see a cheapish showdown with a TP hand.

[Sir Winalot]

Matrix and pinapple, nice posts. You've certainly made me think the AT hand in a new way. Playing it might have much more credit than I thought. I think I'll have to give it a try.

As a further question, would you play A9 or A8 the same? As I see it, I don't think neither one of them is strong enough to play this way off-suited.

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1: If CO is a blind stealer, raise to 6. If he is a value raiser, raise to 8.

3: Call
4: Raise to 6 or fold


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Grunch, I see you have quite differing opinions than the most in this thread about hands 3 &amp; 4. Would you care to elaborate?

Also, I'm surprised that so many have said raise to 6 in #1. Could you elaborate on why to raise so little?

[BukNaked36]

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Hand #3: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, 2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>


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Reraise???

Seeing quite a few responses saying reraise and it's just not jiving with me. Are we just looking to blow him off now, or take it down with c-bet? Couldn't we do that with any 2 cards? Is this situational and we think CO is stealing? Why are we reraising?

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Hand #3: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, 2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>


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Reraise???

Seeing quite a few responses saying reraise and it's just not jiving with me. Are we just looking to blow him off now, or take it down with c-bet? Couldn't we do that with any 2 cards? Is this situational and we think CO is stealing? Why are we reraising?

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I'd fold without a read, but reraising is not bad.
Much of the time you get a fold preflop.
Other times your cbet gets a fold.
Sometimes you flop the best hand or a strong draw.
And yes, from time to time, you will be up against JJ+/AQ+.
But the majority of the time a reraise will work out fine.

[KEW]

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A couple of common preflop situations. If you say raise, include also how much to raise to.

For all hands, assume:
50NL, 6 players
100bb stacks
No reads


Hand #1: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, Button calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

Standard RR to $10...

Hand #2: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

Raise to 2.5-3.0 Open late limper is very weak and you want BB out of the hand and to punish weak hands trying to see acheap flop...

Hand #3: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, 2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

RR to 9..You hand is most likely ahead CO range is very wide..If you call you will be folding the best hand on the flop too often when you both whiff..Take the initiative..

Hand #4: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $2, folds around, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

Call or raise depending on villain..Aggro villain 3 bet and tight villain call..

Hand #5: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red"> Hero? </font>

FOLD most often something(20%) raise to 2..


Hand #6: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 fold, MP calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

Standard raise to 2.5..Build the pot iso and punish limper..



Hand #7: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

Raise to 3..Your hand is to strong to fold but you do not want to play it against 3 or 4 villains..Raise to punish and iso weak limpers..

Hand #8: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

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Call,raise or fold are all viable...

[Big Poppa Smurf]

Hand 1: Pot it
Hand 2: Raise or call, probably around 50% each. ATs and up I'm raising always I think.
Hand 3: Raise or call, depending on stuff. I've been 3betting a lot though if I defend and this works very well at $25
Hand 4: Call
Hand 5: Usually fold, sometimes pot it
Hand 6: Almost always pot it
Hand 7: Pot it almost always
Hand 8: fold fold fold fold fold fold fold