1/2 NL Middle set vs. 2p2er. DEEEP

[Your Mom]

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Preflop reraise is perfectly fine....

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I am curious why you say this? I am by no means an expert at playing this deep but it makes sense to me that since you are defining your hand to your opponent by reraising, giving him the implied odds to stack you is a mistake.

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open up your 3 betting standards and this won't be a problem

[Pasterbator]

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On the turn, i did check/push which i am convinced is bad. I considered the possiblilty of him having AxKd or something similar and figured i might be able to take the pot down here...maybe he'll make a big mistake by calling, but i see that i didnt think that one thru too well.


ae - thanks for the thoughts. Honestly, my thoughts were very similar to yours during the hand. I was pretty sure that if the board paired, you would be able to get away from a flush, so i really wasnt getting any implied odds on the turn, which sucks.

Maybe the hand wasnt all that interesting, but it was the most amount of time ive ever thought about a hand. Not because i lost (im not results oriented) but because it DID have many points that i had to consider thruought the hand. Points that i will never have to look at with most 200NL players.


cero - Thanks for the analysis. When i reraised PF with JJ, while my idea wasnt exactly as you stated, that is how i usually play the hand. I wasnt planning on going to the felt with JJ unimproved, but if i hit a set i planned on stacking him. I like what you said about sometimes calling PF, but my problem here is that his hand range is soooo wide in a 4 handed game on the button, i will have trouble putting him on a range thruought the hand.


Thanks guys. I feel this hand really helped my game.

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So next time you're bet-folding the turn? Your hand is very well defined as not being a straight or flush, so ae could take it away from you regardless of his holding (potentially with AxKd)?

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I wouldnt bet/fold, but i would definitely lead the turn (probably for 1/2 pot ). I'm really dont think im supposed to get away from this hand against this player. I think a small turn bet MIGHT get a bluffraise out of aejones...but maybe not.

I think check/pushing the turn is bad bc he gets to play pretty much perfectly against me since im telling him exactly what i have.

I'm really not convinced that any of my choices are great here, but im leaning toward a small turn bet as the best play.

[Melchiades]

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How do you guys all know each others party SNs? I mean, I can guess that AEJones has a 9 letter all undercase name by his stats (I only have one good 30/18ish in my database), but how do you know everyone else beforehand?

I apologize if I'm out of line, I just started 6max (full ring convert).

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Next time you sit on a table with either ae or pb you will just know. Trust me. Use the force.

[Melchiades]

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As said previously, I will call the raise to 25 with any two that I would raise to 7 with from the button when we are this deep.

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Good luck with that.

[Ness3]

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How do you guys all know each others party SNs? I mean, I can guess that AEJones has a 9 letter all undercase name by his stats (I only have one good 30/18ish in my database), but how do you know everyone else beforehand?

I apologize if I'm out of line, I just started 6max (full ring convert).

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Next time you sit on a table with either ae or pb you will just know. Trust me. Use the force.

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lol

[Ness3]

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Lastly, I think aejones's point about not trying to force out KK/QQ on the flop, because that opportunity will still be there on the turn, is EXCELLENT. That's showing some nerve and some brains. Note that many LAGs are not disciplined enough to keep from pushing over a pot-bet on the flop with a flush draw, especially if there's some indication you may be picking on them. Hence, my recommendation to bet full-pot on the flop.



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dont teach the lags how to play better.

mmmkthnks.

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