no limit holdem/future of limit holdem?

[geormiet]

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i don't care to speculate on the future of lhe because i think it's just that, speculation, and it is pretty silly to begin estimating when lhe will make a come back and how strongly, or when it will become extinct etc. because it's just impossible to know any of these things with the slightest degree of confidence.

lhe isn't as ripe for making money as it used to be but there is still definitely water in the well. thus, my plan is to keep sitting in the good lhe games while trying to peice together a nl game on the side/in my spare time. i think that is a wise approach for any lhe player these days.

also, i am sort of baffled as to why the popularity of lhe is waning. people say because they televise nl but like 5 years ago when the televising really started to take off it was LIMIT that was booming and continued to for the next 4 years or so, all the while they were still televising 95% nlhe. i don't see what catalyzed this collective movement away from lhe and towards nl. sure does suck though.

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What about US legislation and the demise of party poker? Is it possible this is a factor?

[The Bryce]

As far as online play goes it's mostly a player volume thing, imo. If LHE had the same sized player pool it would probably push plenty of players up into the big 5/10 and 1k/2k, and as long as there was somewhat regular action to be had there a 1M month wouldn't be that uncommon.

[joker122]

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i don't care to speculate on the future of lhe because i think it's just that, speculation, and it is pretty silly to begin estimating when lhe will make a come back and how strongly, or when it will become extinct etc. because it's just impossible to know any of these things with the slightest degree of confidence.

lhe isn't as ripe for making money as it used to be but there is still definitely water in the well. thus, my plan is to keep sitting in the good lhe games while trying to peice together a nl game on the side/in my spare time. i think that is a wise approach for any lhe player these days.

also, i am sort of baffled as to why the popularity of lhe is waning. people say because they televise nl but like 5 years ago when the televising really started to take off it was LIMIT that was booming and continued to for the next 4 years or so, all the while they were still televising 95% nlhe. i don't see what catalyzed this collective movement away from lhe and towards nl. sure does suck though.

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What about US legislation and the demise of party poker? Is it possible this is a factor?

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i don't see the relation (and im not being sarcastic) but i'm all ears if you want to explain.

[Joe Tall]

Hold'em is dying.

I've said this nine times this week: Everyone knows how to play hold'em. The fish are gone from online games. Limit has been first, NL will follow. Learn Stud, O8, Stud8 and other games, that's where the money is at online.

[HOWMANY]

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I've said this nine times this week

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I wish you would stop saying it because eventually people are going to listen.

[Michael Davis]

Once "they" listen it will be good to play hold em again.

-Michael

[MATT111]

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well, ive played like 30k hands of nl (2-4 to 5-10) and my biggest downswing was 6 buyins. suppose i just ran hot.

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Not that you should expect to not have bigger downswings at those levels but it`s not that extraordinary. I played about 250K hands of MSNL and never had a >15BI downswing.

[MATT111]

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and i think that was what i was getting at with my comparison. imo 2/4nl is easier to beat than 10/20 limit for the same amount.


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It`s not even remotely close.

[chesterboy]

Wow I find that suprising. I have always found 10 20 fl pretty easy to beat, but my NL attempts just go down in flames every time.

Does anyone know of a basic opening ranges guideline for NLHE?

[TheWorstPlayer]

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Does anyone know of a basic opening ranges guideline for NLHE?

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Open anything playable