no limit holdem/future of limit holdem?
 

is there more money to be made in no limit (both live and online)? we used to be richer than all the nl donks but suddenly (ie over the last year and a half) these guys are having 7 figure months. that's literally impossible for LHE players playing online except for maybe Hoss occasionally. it's especially frustrating for someone like me whos grinded out for so long to reach the same levels that they reach in a month.

you guys think this is a long term thing? i dont like this trend.


ps i know this is slightly off topic but i think it's important to discuss the future of high stakes limit holdem. if people who have experience with live play can chime in that would be nice too.

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i think it will depend a lot on how the tail end of the poker boom plays out. DS and Mason have said in the past that NL is just a fad because it busts the fish too fast, so the game just naturally dies. well this isn't true in the current dynamic where virtually every male college student and mid life crisis sufferer goes through a poker phase, specifically a NL texas holdem phase.


in ten years, if televised poker becomes as popular as those strong man competitions on ESPN, then i would guess limit is the place to be long term.

the next 5 to 10 years certainly belong to NL though. not that limit can't provide a living.

kind of sucks though since NL is like watching paint dry for me.

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This has been on my mind a lot over the past year. I just don't see anyone new to the game wanting to play LHE. And as far as that comment about " the next 5-10 years belong to nl" well.. how long do I really want to be playing this game? That seems like a pretty long time to have to wait for lhe to reverse the trend.

I started about a year ago mixing in nl games and now I am about 70-30 limit/nl and I think that will be changing more towards more nl. I would be interested to talk about winrates for comparable stakes say 5-10nl vs 20-40 or 30-60 lhe. Obviously one huge advantage nl has is the ability to play a million games at once.

Re: no limit holdem/future of limit holdem?
 

The money's bigger and easier to win in NL.

Re: no limit holdem/future of limit holdem?
 

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The money's bigger and easier to win in NL.

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Well, those are pretty important factors that go into my decision thx.

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i think it will depend a lot on how the tail end of the poker boom plays out. DS and Mason have said in the past that NL is just a fad because it busts the fish too fast, so the game just naturally dies. well this isn't true in the current dynamic where virtually every male college student and mid life crisis sufferer goes through a poker phase, specifically a NL texas holdem phase.


in ten years, if televised poker becomes as popular as those strong man competitions on ESPN, then i would guess limit is the place to be long term.

the next 5 to 10 years certainly belong to NL though. not that limit can't provide a living.

kind of sucks though since NL is like watching paint dry for me.

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What makes them think these guys will start playing limit poker after they bust out?

Re: no limit holdem/future of limit holdem?
 

umm, did u see geo's thread? we pretty much discussed this to death.

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umm, did u see geo's thread? we pretty much discussed this to death.

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who is geo? Where is the thread? link?

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Re: no limit holdem/future of limit holdem?
 

IMO, there is definitley a lot more money in live NL than limit. Live limit games are greeat... but all my experiences with live NL make me want to play a lot more of it. Obviously online right now, the biggest winners are NL becomes more of the bigger games run, they run more consistently, and the players seem to have larger edges over their oponents. (sounds pretty clear cut right?) For non uber-ballers though, the gap is pretty close and it's not likely that we will know how it will play out in the future. The middle stakes NL games used to be great and now have tons of solid grinders. I think people forget it's easier to play more hands/hour at NL, so many of the grinders play more hands than limit players and people forget than when looking at their earn. Ultimatley it will pay to be competant at both and be able to choose the better games on a regular basis. I think the NL players will almost always be the top top earners if there is not a drastic change in the poker economy, but there is still plenty of money in limit and will be for some time.