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#31
04-27-2007, 09:46 PM
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Re: Nothing ... adds ... up
His line is wierd, but from my experience in these wierd lines, they have the goods moe often that not especially from a nit. I like your line if you fold the river, vs player described (obv. not as standard, but sometimes).
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#35
04-27-2007, 10:15 PM
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Re: Nothing ... adds ... up
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[ QUOTE ] If we are to smart to bet flop, whats wrong with a checkraise vs a nit on this flop? [/ QUOTE ] For kinda the same reason we're not betting it... [/ QUOTE ]
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#36
04-27-2007, 11:32 PM
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Re: Nothing ... adds ... up
Not betting this flop is the prob in this hand for me. The nit will make his hand quite obvious right there. He will prob flat call with AQ or AJ, (the hands we get value from), raise with what beats us and fold everything else.
As played, you may have induced a bluff, you gotta call.
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#37
04-27-2007, 11:45 PM
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Re: Nothing ... adds ... up
i dont think preflop nits are neccessarily postflop nits. i think there are quite a few preflop nits that make up for the nittiness by being creative postflop. I dont mind the flop c/c, though i personally probably lead.
i would bet the turn though because a whole load of gutshot draws just appeared and if some 4card straights appear on the river its pretty annoying. i dont really think hes calling an utg raise from mp with Q10 to be honest...AJ, i dont think so..maybe. I think his calling range for an utg raise when in mp is mainly made up of pocket pairs. He may well be fast playing a set on the flop hoping you have the ace. But if he did have a set i think he would bet the turn once you call the flop, since hes probably hoping you have the ace. but since he checks behind the turn it looks like the river helped him somehow. I probably call because you've played the hand strangly so far and your line looks really bluffy. but im sure i call down way too much in these spots. If you think hes not capable of bluff raising here then fold, if you've ever seen him get out of line i call. i think its close between bet/fold and bet/call.
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#38
04-27-2007, 11:54 PM
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Re: Nothing ... adds ... up
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Not betting this flop is the prob in this hand for me. The nit will make his hand quite obvious right there. He will prob flat call with AQ or AJ, (the hands we get value from), raise with what beats us and fold everything else. As played, you may have induced a bluff, you gotta call. [/ QUOTE ] If he will bet a lot more than call when checked to on the flop surely its ok? It not like were going to lose a boatload of value from AJ/AQ anyway? I disagree that he has induced a bluff enough to call on the river. I really don't think most people bluff in this spot too often and the river raise size really doesn't look bluffy tbh.
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