Live Tells

[pba08]

In the games you are speaking of, the tells I would look for are the manner in which chips are bet, as well as betting patterns. Pay a TON of attention to the aggressive players as they are the ones you'll be dealing with most of the time. Oh, and when a weak/tight/passive player starts shaking like a leaf, FOLD.


BTW, I'm 12 and have been playing for 4 weeks. I multi 12 tables of 1/2 limit online and make about $750/night. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[GeeseHoward]

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In the games you are speaking of, the tells I would look for are the manner in which chips are bet, as well as betting patterns. Pay a TON of attention to the aggressive players as they are the ones you'll be dealing with most of the time. Oh, and when a weak/tight/passive player starts shaking like a leaf, FOLD.


BTW, I'm 12 and have been playing for 4 weeks. I multi 12 tables of 1/2 limit online and make about $750/night. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Thank you pba08, now I am getting some where.

[capone0]

Search is probally your best friend with this one.

[GeeseHoward]

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Search is probally your best friend with this one.

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I actually did before I registered, however I couldn't find an actual achive of tells other than posts on indivdual sessions.

[THAY3R]

You should loosen your starting requirements a bit. I would go into detail and explain why, but I am young, and I really don't like you.

[GeeseHoward]

Yep we haven't really covered anything today have we, we will try again tomorrow. However I'm a little worried it's the weekend and I expect I will get more useless comments.

[RealMcCoy]

Goose - you sure do know how to make an impression on folks. Not necessarily a good one either.
But as a long time reader and a short time poster I give you the benefit of the doubt in the way you phrased things and really only hoped for serious replies and didn't mean to antagonize 1/3 of the posters here.

Okay - Background +$50K per year net/live combined.
All records are very well documented as to game location session length and after play rating of how I played (you can be a donkey and still win in any session). Home games the last 20 years with a couple trips to LV a year until Casino's came to the Midwest 10 years ago. Bread and butter game has been LIMIT poker UNTIL the last 2 years. Play online primarily 10/20 short handed and up to 40/80 live with the majority being 20/40 and 30/60.

Last year I have decided it was just to juicy to continue to ignore No limit tourneys with the influx of newbies.
I have been very successful in the transition and won my WSOP ME entry on my first attempt in April

In short I take a serious students approach to any game I gamble in and have done it successfully for the last +20 yrs.

My live play now is $2/5 No Limit but we have a $500 MAX buy in locally to any table which impacts the play but keeps the fish alive for a lot longer. I play a TAG style and any semi observant player knows it and my Limit history was the same. This allows me MANY positional stealing opportunities which I take advantage of. I average $108 per hour for my last 10 live sessions this year (LIMITED SAMPLE SIZE).

Tells generalized:

1) If they splash chips they are bluffing. Beware the soft bet not the one done with flourish.
2) If you can't see them breath (they are stones and normally are animated) they are bluffing - A guy holding his breathe is exactly what he seems - scared.
3) They Look uninterested - WATCH OUT
4) If immediately after looking at their hole cards if you can see them checking their chips stacks (glancing down or better yet staring) WATCH OUT
5) Quick calls are NORMALLY draw hands. Give them the wrong pot odds to run you down.
6) Bets from "Nervous" hands should scare you.
7) Short stacks are at least 2 to 3 times more likely to be bluffing. -- NOTE my casino has a buy in limit and although you can add back to the $500 level at anytime few players do -- This dramatically increases the frequency of short stack bluffs in my local casino and it may NOT be the same for you.

All this being said don't get over enthused with "catching bluffs" as being a huge hourly money winner. I have saved more by laying down a hand based upon my read of a player (tells) than I make by catching them.

If you are going to error the smaller of the errors is folding a winner than calling with a loser.

Hope this helps. But in closing a lot of these "kids" are tough SOB's at no limit because they have not learned fear (remember when you were young and though you were bullet proof? ) and play with a disregard that can be one Hades of a style to read and defend against. The truly dynamite ones not only have no fear BUT have LEARNED the gaming theory to add to their natural style.

While I love to play against brash bullet proof players I HATE to play against an INTELLIGENT young and brash no limit player who is a student of the game. Those pups are tough and I am good enough to know to stay out of their way without good reason.

[morphball]

Methinks this is a joke post...

[knife420]

1/2 50cent/1 NL cash games and small smakes sng's for live play, between live and online play i have logged over 100k hands since the first of this year, many more in the past but have spent the last few months actively improving my play, id personally spend the time i wasn't involved in hands deciding if these very loose players were just bad, or if they were just loose players with post flop ability, if their bad enough its just A/b/c poker, if you can identify particular large mistakes or leaks in some of their play u can plan means of stacking them, aside from standard Caro tells its a lot of individual experience, betting patterns seem to be my tool rather than the physical tells but some players are bad enough to give them off to the point they are a book

[GeeseHoward]

I just wanted to say thanks to knife420, RealMcCoy, meandi out of all the posts you got straight to the point.

Well done to all the kids who took 5 minutes out of their day and posted crap.

I picked up Mike Caro's book of tells and I am finding it very usefull.