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Old 07-02-2006, 09:38 PM
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Default Re: I thought this was fairly straightforward

presumably the button vs a co raise is your widest 3-betting range preflop. how do people react to this? do they start 4-betting a lot lot more? do people get messed up by your seemingly maniacal play and start thinking QQ has to be good?
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Old 07-02-2006, 09:41 PM
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I personally think this is just terribly played.
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Old 07-02-2006, 11:09 PM
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I personally think this is just terribly played.

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KN,

what would you do differently?
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Old 07-02-2006, 11:13 PM
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callcallcall
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Old 07-02-2006, 11:17 PM
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Default Re: I thought this was fairly straightforward

Honestly without some more meaningful context about your oppoenent and how the recent hands have developed, I don't think we can say with the appropriate degree of certainty that it's a good laydown/line for the hand.
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Old 07-02-2006, 11:53 PM
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Default Re: I thought this was fairly straightforward

sam, I think as a standard line, this is pretty bad. However, that said, perhaps against this particular opponent, and with your read, it was played ideally. IE some players will 3-bet liberally and c-bet nearly every time, but given that he 4-bet and you still called, he has to realize you probably always have a monster here, and he still pushes. I'd usually instacall this, but given your read and explanation, it's hard to argue against. If nothing else, I think you bring up a good concept. It reminds me a lot of a situation like calling a flop c/r with an overpair, only to fold to a strong turn lead. Same concept (you don't know he's going to make that bet), just different situations.
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Old 07-03-2006, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: I thought this was fairly straightforward

Are you guys [censored] serious?

Get off the guys dick and realize this might be the shittest play ever......I don't care if the guy shows me aces everytime. I never fold here, its retarded...

Sam why even bother calling pre? You think hes going to check the flop for you. LMAO
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Old 07-03-2006, 12:25 AM
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Guys,

I hate to say it, but I could not agree more w/ KingNeo and EmpireMaker.

holla
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Old 07-03-2006, 12:27 AM
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Seriously.

This is how I would have played it differently.

Based on the player I sometimes fold preflop in these situations.

If I decide to call the reraise preflop (especially if it is $500) then I am definitely going all the way with it. This is an insta call and a no brainer at that.

There are only 2 ways to play this hand IMO. Calling preflop and then folding on the flop is mind numbing.

WTF do you think this guy is gonna do on the flop after he reraises to $500 preflop? Do you think he is ever going to check ?
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Old 07-03-2006, 12:30 AM
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Guys,

I hate to say it, but I could not agree more w/ KingNeo and EmpireMaker.

holla

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ditto
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