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#31
05-15-2006, 12:20 PM
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Re: 10/20 A Bit Deep
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[ QUOTE ] PUSH and in the chat say AA? [/ QUOTE ] why? the chat part, not the push part [/ QUOTE ] 18th level thinking baby: you ask AA, he thinks you have KK so he wants to fold QQ-TT, he realizes this and knows he has to call with QQ-TT or get psychologically owned, but then he realizes that you are aware of this too and obviously have AA wanting him to call with KK-TT. so he will fold KK. now my head hurts ALSO I am curious as to the answer to "part 2" which I haven't seen discussed much yet 
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#32
05-15-2006, 01:15 PM
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Re: 10/20 A Bit Deep
Hmm well it looks like JJ and up you feel lucky...LET's GAMBOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL. YOU ARE A FAV here. Minbet is retarded cause he pushes. Don't call cause blank means you don't see the river. I want my money in as a favorite. The thing is that the Villan totally neglects a hand like the one you are playing. Thus he figures he is going to take the pot down right now. GL.
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#33
05-15-2006, 01:16 PM
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Re: Results
Yes.
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#34
05-15-2006, 01:17 PM
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Re: Results
Geez you are a damn favorite. You have 9+5 outs and backdoor straight draw. Like 60% to hit. Get your damn money in there.
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#35
05-15-2006, 01:21 PM
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Re: 10/20 A Bit Deep
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ALSO I am curious as to the answer to "part 2" which I haven't seen discussed much yet [/ QUOTE ] Well. villian is getting about 2:1 on the call, so he really doesn't need too good a hand if hero is pushing all his strong draws. Also, it depends on how loose villian thinks hero is, so what his range will be going into the flop. If hero is going to call with a lot of suited connectors, 1-gappers, and suited broadways, AND push with any flush draw here, then villian should probably call with most overpairs, since he only needs to win about 33%, and there would be a lot of flush draw combos. If hero's only pushing monster draws and sets though, then even AA-KK are probably folds, since there aren't THAT many monster draw combo's, and you're still a slight dog to them, or a huge dog to sets. but most of the time hero won't be that tight.
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#36
05-15-2006, 01:27 PM
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Re: Results
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Geez you are a damn favorite. You have 9+5 outs and backdoor straight draw. Like 60% to hit. Get your damn money in there. [/ QUOTE ] you probably should work on your math a little.
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#37
05-16-2006, 12:19 PM
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Re: 10/20 A Bit Deep
If BB is TAG like you said, then I'm assuming this re-raise is almost never/never 66, 44, or 22, correct? But much more likely something like 99 - AA or AK/AK suited? As played, with $772 already in the pot, and you having pretty much even EV against his range (see below), you def want to get all the money in now or win it uncontested (too bad he will prob not lay down his overpair according to your notes here though [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] ). As to how to get all your money in here, I would think by doing the same thing that you would do with a set/top 2 type hand (even though this particular flop will prob never look like top 2). So if you've been minraising those types of hands, then you should probably min-raise his flop bet. But if you 3 or 4 bet those types of hands then you should do the same here (with the thinking that he might let go of the overpair here thinking you've monstered up, even if it is not very often). Here are the EVS: If BB's overpair is a heart(in this case 10H), then BB is about a 53% favorite here. If BB doesn't, then you are about a 51% favorite here. If BB has a hand like AH KH, then you are again about a 51% favorite.
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