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Old 03-22-2007, 02:47 PM
noles321 noles321 is offline
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Default Re: Cap the turn with AA ?

I don't know why but my gut says UTG has 222 or 666. I see the small pair limp out of position in 10/20 all the time trying to get multi way action and flop a set.
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Old 03-22-2007, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: Cap the turn with AA ?

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I truly consider a fold on the turn. JMO Unless, I really believe these guys are complete idiots I don't think there are many hands that I am going to beat. What was the end result of the hand?

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I'll post that later this afternoon. I think the reason I clearly didn't fold the turn was because I was quite certain of my read on MP+1. I felt that if I could just call UTG for 1 bet, I could see a showdown for 2 more total. Obviously MP+1 made the hand more annoying then it needed to be. But he was betting way too strong and quick for a set. I'd never seen anyone flop a set and just steam roll chips out like that. So he was not a concern to me.
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Old 03-22-2007, 03:09 PM
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Default Re: Cap the turn with AA ?

I see people steam roll chips with a set anytime it is multiway. If it were HU that would be a different situation all together.
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Old 03-22-2007, 03:44 PM
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Default Re: Cap the turn with AA ?

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I truly consider a fold on the turn. JMO Unless, I really believe these guys are complete idiots I don't think there are many hands that I am going to beat. What was the end result of the hand?

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Getting 17:1 you're considering folding what could be the best hand in a huge pot? If you're behind you've likley got 2 outs and we still believe we're ahead of MP1. Big pots are not the times to make big laydowns. Its the time when you put you're opponent on a weak hand and hope you beat it. Get to showdown cheaply and hope to scoop a huge pot. I've seen too many hands like this where 1 guy bets, you fold the guy you expect to raise call. River goes check check and you're hand woulda been good.
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Old 03-22-2007, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: Cap the turn with AA ?

A fold would be a disaster, and a raise would be a little spewy w/out reads (although sick if he's thinking LAG), I think you just call here.

If you know that MP+1 has an overpair, raising could be right, but I'm more scared of UTG at this point.
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Old 03-22-2007, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: Cap the turn with AA ?

Results time:

As stated, the pot was simply too big for me to fold to UTG on the turn. That was never a consideration for me. His call of MP+1's turn raise convinced me he was weak. Since I couldn't put him on any 2 pair combinations, I felt I was best. That having been said, I simply couldn't find a way to raise. As stated, MP+1 bet the river, all called.

results:

MP+1 : QQ
MP: K6o (I was floored by that)
UTG: Kh9h

I scoop it, and know I'm going to have fun at this table. I guess UTG block bet, and to some extent it got him a fairly cheap showdown. Looks like I had to dodge 8 outs on that one, so I was better then a coin flip to win it out. I just wish I had raised the river. Maybe that's too result oriented though.
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