Never fold KK preflop, right?!?!? - Page 3

FionnMac · #21 03-09-2007, 10:37 AM

foldy folderson

DaCooler · #22 03-09-2007, 10:56 AM

I folded them a week ago preflop, and i think this is an EZ fold without reads on MP being a donk, AceCR9, wow, your getting stacked here then

punter11235 · #23 03-09-2007, 11:45 AM

Looks likea fold to me too.
People very rarely go crazy in multiway reraised preflop pots.

Redgrape · #24 03-09-2007, 11:56 AM

This is a fold.
Yellowsub I think your off, I mean MP is decent and he's just not doing this with anything less than KK. And then again, SB 4 bet range is probably KK+ too. It's just retarded to call here.

Black winter day · #25 03-09-2007, 11:58 AM

Sb might be squeezing if he sees you as position abuser and MP has like 75BB, so he might have QQ-AK here as well.
It's a tough one and i think it's close enough decision that you don't lose value by doing either.
So, i'd say what i do here depends on my mood and how well i've been running lately , since it's probably neutral EV.

grafyx · #26 03-09-2007, 12:02 PM

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This is a fold.
SB 4 bet range is probably KK+ too.

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Come on. What games do you play in? Unless OP is a huge nit, any decent player capable of making moves has a much wider range here.

JKratzer · #27 03-09-2007, 01:21 PM

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"When was the last time you folded KK preflop?"

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here

GermanWunderkind · #28 03-09-2007, 01:42 PM

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Don't listen to these nits

There's enough dead money in this pot that you practically have odds to race against AA.. round up and gamble!

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aren't we getting like 2:1 or something [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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If we are getting 2:1 its an easy call i think. He only has to have AK, QQ a small percentage of the time to make this call correct.

Anyone who folds: please tell me ur screennames - i'll be happy to push u around.

luegofuego · #29 03-09-2007, 01:48 PM

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Sb might be squeezing if he sees you as position abuser and MP has like 75BB, so he might have QQ-AK here as well.
It's a tough one and i think it's close enough decision that you don't lose value by doing either.
So, i'd say what i do here depends on my mood and how well i've been running lately , since it's probably neutral EV.

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AHAHAHA

jlkrusty · #30 03-09-2007, 02:29 PM

In the actual hand, I did want to puke... but, I also kept hearing a little voice, "Never fold KK preflop.... never fold KK preflop..."

At the time, I thought SB could be squeezing as well. I was more than happy to get it all in against SB. It was MP that got me thinking. Are there chances that MP is playing back at what he suspects is a squeezing SB? Also, I'm fairly certain MP came to the table with a full buyin and had lost a little. I did not see MP tilting on previous hands, but doesn't this increase his chances of pushing back at SB out of some minor frustration? Couldn't he have a hand like AQ or 77 and just be tired of people pulling "TWP"-type crap?

FWIW, I was probably showing a TAG game as well--something around 25/15. One other note: MP did not push all in instantly. A little bit of time passed on his turn before he pushed. Is it possible these players are doing some kind of warped 3rd, 4th, or 5th level thinking?