why veganmav is vegan

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For every quarter-pound hamburger made from rainforest beef, 55 square feet of rainforest are destroyed.

To date, probably the most reliable and widely-accepted water estimate to produce a pound of beef is the figure of 2,500 gallons.


[/ QUOTE ]i'm not disputing these numbers, but just exactly how much rainforest and water do we have? if these numbers are true, don't we use up millions of sq ft of rainforest a day? and millions of gallons of water? at least? and we've been doing this for decades? why aren't we running out of either?

[stjohnychan]

but more importantly-- why are you a 'mav'? An inexplicable crush on Mark Cuban, perhaps?

[danzasmack]

vegan,

how were you so poor growing up?

[veganmav]

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For every quarter-pound hamburger made from rainforest beef, 55 square feet of rainforest are destroyed.

To date, probably the most reliable and widely-accepted water estimate to produce a pound of beef is the figure of 2,500 gallons.


[/ QUOTE ]i'm not disputing these numbers, but just exactly how much rainforest and water do we have? if these numbers are true, don't we use up millions of sq ft of rainforest a day? and millions of gallons of water? at least? and we've been doing this for decades? why aren't we running out of either?

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I think we are running out of both.

Alarming percentages of rain forest have been de-forested.

Pennsylvania State University professor of environmental sciences James Alcock, predicts that if deforestation continues unabated, within 10 to 15 years it will reach a “point of no return,” and the entire Amazon rain forest could be wiped out within 40 or 50 years. The Amazon’s destruction would spell drastic changes in the global environment.

[veganmav]

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but more importantly-- why are you a 'mav'? An inexplicable crush on Mark Cuban, perhaps?

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Comes from word maverick: 2. One that refuses to abide by the dictates of or resists adherence to a group; a dissenter.

adj.

Being independent in thought and action or exhibiting such independence

[veganmav]

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vegan,

how were you so poor growing up?

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Mom was a poor Mexican, Dad was a jobless hippy. we had no home. = eat out of trash

[AsH_KeTcHuM]

Vegan mav, I think you are full of crap. By your standards is it humane to kill millions of rodents, birds, reptiles, and insects that live in fields by dumping pesticides on them? What about running big fat tractors over them? Why is that acceptable?

The simple fact is that we are animals and we need to eat other animals lower than us in the food chain. I'm not willing to spend time and money making chickens and cows comfortable, I just want to eat them so I can stay alive and keep building big muscles that make your girlfriend want to have sex with me.

[SomethingClever]

I have a carton of fresh-laid eggs from my in-laws farm sitting in my fridge right now. They're delicious.

They let the chickens range on their property... Carmelo the rooster keeps his pimp hand strong and all the egg-laying bitches in line.

[alphatmw]

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For every quarter-pound hamburger made from rainforest beef, 55 square feet of rainforest are destroyed.

To date, probably the most reliable and widely-accepted water estimate to produce a pound of beef is the figure of 2,500 gallons.


[/ QUOTE ]i'm not disputing these numbers, but just exactly how much rainforest and water do we have? if these numbers are true, don't we use up millions of sq ft of rainforest a day? and millions of gallons of water? at least? and we've been doing this for decades? why aren't we running out of either?

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I think we are running out of both.

Alarming percentages of rain forest have been de-forested.

Pennsylvania State University professor of environmental sciences James Alcock, predicts that if deforestation continues unabated, within 10 to 15 years it will reach a “point of no return,” and the entire Amazon rain forest could be wiped out within 40 or 50 years. The Amazon’s destruction would spell drastic changes in the global environment.

[/ QUOTE ]so at 220 sq ft per pound of beef being destroyed, the rainforest is going to last another 50 years? i didn't realize the rainforest was so gigantically huge, considering we must eat billions of pounds of beef each year.

and what about water? are you seriously going to say we're running out of it?

[veganmav]

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Vegan mav, I think you are full of crap. By your standards is it humane to kill millions of rodents, birds, reptiles, and insects that live in fields by dumping pesticides on them? What about running big fat tractors over them? Why is that acceptable?

The simple fact is that we are animals and we need to eat other animals lower than us in the food chain. I'm not willing to spend time and money making chickens and cows comfortable, I just want to eat them so I can stay alive and keep building big muscles that make your girlfriend want to have sex with me.

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I try to minimize suffering. #1 I don't support the former, I dumpster dive my food for one, and also, a vegan diet obviously minimizes suffering. Although obviously CSA diet, or home grown food etc would be better.

It's fine that you eat meat etc.

You aren't willing to spend time/money to minimize suffering/waste/pollution. I am willing to spend time and money to minimize those things.

To each his own.

BTW: I don't have a girlfriend, and I never will.