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I would take the guys from Murderball in a volleyball match against the Russian national team.
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#22
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[ QUOTE ] You guys are all severely underestimating how bad women suck at sports. Seriously. I worked in sports media for several years and the Texas women's team had a bunch of student manager scrubs that they used to scrimmage against. The guys would beat the women every time if they didn't hold back, and the Texas women were in the top 10 at the time. Any decent high school boys' team would destroy a team of WNBA all-stars 100 times out of 100. Hell, pick 5 guys off the court at just about any decent pickup court in a big city and they'd run the WNBAers off the court. There's simply no comparison. When Chris Evert was a dominant #1 women's player, she was married for a time to John Lloyd, a pro men's player. He was usually ranked between 150th and 250th in the world, and I don't believe he ever was ranked higher than 100th. They used to play competitive tennis at least once a week, best 2 out of 3 sets, at full strength. Do you know how many times she beat him? Zero. Never. In fact, she said she never really came close. There is a vas deferens between men's and women's sports. [/ QUOTE ] That's not quite the same issue though. Chris Evert's husband, although he was not a very good pro, was a pro nevertheless. I am not disputing whether a professional male athlete, however marginal, could take out the world's best woman. Of course he could. Make the question "could Chris Evert in her prime beat a state boys high school tennis champion (or maybe the Division III NCAA men's champion)?" and it becomes a lot more interesting, and the answer not quite as pat. I suppose in the case of the above question, knowing the state the guy was the HS champion of would make a big difference, as the Florida, Texas, and California state champions >>>>>>>> in quality over New York, New Hampshire, North Dakota state champions due to climate, training opportunities, etc. --Scott [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, but the 150th ranked men's player dominated the #1 women's player. It wasn't like they were about equal. Everyone talks about how hard Serena serves, but it's like 110 mph, right? That is a poor first serve for the men. There's simply no comparison in speed, power, etc. that gives men a huge advantage over the women. So I think any good high school boy's tennis player would probably wipe the court with Serena. |
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I've played in pickup games against girls that play D-I college ball.
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I've played in pickup games against girls that play D-I college ball. Needless to say, I was not impressed at all. [/ QUOTE ] |
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[ QUOTE ] When down 20 points, some guy makes a little dunk and his teammates all surround him high fiving and woo'ing like they all accomplished something. [/ QUOTE ] Sorry, this would never happen in men's sports. [/ QUOTE ] You beat me to this punchline. I'd like the chances of one of the top 2 woman's CBB teams (Tennessee, UConn in prime, UNC) vs. a winning HS team in a smaller school bracket. The dropoff from the big name programs and the other "top" teams is pretty huge. Bedridden with a fever this past weekend, I accidentally flipped through some of the womens' games. Majority of teams I saw were pretty bad. May you & yours never be bedridden with a fever (at least not until football season). |
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I've played in pickup games against girls that play D-I college ball. Needless to say, I was not impressed at all. [/ QUOTE ] I have as well, and I never even had the size or talent to play on my HS team. They weren't difficult to cover or shoot over. Any decent HS team would beat a women's college or WNBA team. |
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[ QUOTE ] I've played in pickup games against supposedly the best player in womans D-I college ball at the time. Needless to say, I was not impressed at all. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] |
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Regarding the tennis version of this debate, I was a practice partner for the Vanderbilt Women's tennis team for 3 years. They were ranked in the top 10 all 3 years I was there, and lost in the NCAA finals in one of those years. I could beat them all except the #1 singles player, and I wasn't in the top 50 high school boys players in Texas.
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Regarding the tennis version of this debate, I was a practice partner for the Vanderbilt Women's tennis team for 3 years. They were ranked in the top 10 all 3 years I was there, and lost in the NCAA finals in one of those years. I could beat them all except the #1 singles player, and I wasn't in the top 50 high school boys players in Texas. [/ QUOTE ] Did they let you shower with them? |
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In most team sports, a pro or national women's team is probably the equivalent to the type of high school team described by the OP.
In individual sports, women fare a bit better but the gap is still wide. For individual sports, the typical world class woman is about the equivalent of a middle of the road D-I athlete. I think this holds pretty much across the board whether it's track, tennis, weightlifting, wrestling, or whatever. In team sports, I think the disparities in size, strength, power, and general aggressiveness are magnified. |
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