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#22
01-21-2007, 03:42 PM
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Re: Discussion: Common preflop situations
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I'm surprised so many people just call with 99 in hand #4...I raise here more often than not, maybe much more often. As for the rest, I agree with ticks. [/ QUOTE ] Raising is absolutely an option. Calling is fine too. I think we might get more value out of hands we are ahead of if we just call though. 
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#23
01-21-2007, 03:48 PM
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Re: Discussion: Common preflop situations
Hand #1: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, Button calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Reraise to $8 Hand #2: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Call Hand #3: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO raises to $2, 2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Reraise to $6.5 Hand #4: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG raises to $2, folds around, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Call Hand #5: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Fold Hand #6: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 1 fold, MP calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Raise to $2,5 Hand #7: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Raise to $3 Hand #8: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Call
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#24
01-21-2007, 03:53 PM
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Re: Discussion: Common preflop situations
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I'm surprised so many people just call with 99 in hand #4...I raise here more often than not, maybe much more often. [/ QUOTE ] you're OOP once the flop comes for the rest of the hand - I tend to assume that most players play a little tighter from EP than they do from LP so I'd think villain would call our re-raise often with whatever he has - and often times here we are WB to TT+ or will be behind when villain pairs one of his broadway cards on the flop/turn. Raising here drops us headfirst into a reverse implied odds spot - and thats not cool. I'd raise 99 more often if we had position or a read - but my default play here is to smooth call until I have more of a handle on how UTG plays potflop.
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#25
01-21-2007, 03:54 PM
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Re: Discussion: Common preflop situations
In general people shouldnt worry too much about preflop, except for a few obvious pitfalls.
1. Calling raises with easily/likely dominated hands. 2. Calling raises OOP with non-pair hands. 3. Playing pocket pairs for set value without proper implied odds. 4. [insert your own] You can add more if you have reads, say building big pots preflop with non premium hands against loose callstations, etc.
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#26
01-21-2007, 04:02 PM
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Re: Discussion: Common preflop situations
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Hand #1: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO raises to $2, Button calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hero raises to $9. Hand #2: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hero calls. Hand #3: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO raises to $2, 2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Depends on CO. 80% fold, 20% raise to $7. Hand #4: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG raises to $2, folds around, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hero calls. Hand #5: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Depends on MP/CO/BTN. Raise 50%, fold 50% Hand #6: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 1 fold, MP calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hero raises to $2.50. Hand #7: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hero raises to $3. Fold when your image is bad, etc. Hand #8: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hero calls. [/ QUOTE ] i do almost tha exact same thing aas jogsaw here. except i fold T9s utg about 80% of the time. everything else is exactly tha same for me [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#27
01-21-2007, 04:11 PM
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Re: Discussion: Common preflop situations
I'm not very confident about a lot of my answers, but I do disagree with some of the responses I've seen so I'll have a stab...
1. Raise to pot, hopefully getting HU and then leading most flops. 2. Raise to 6BBs 3. With no reads I'd probably let him take it, but I think this a good hand to 3 bet with from the blinds, so if I did that I would probably raise to ~$8. Calling is probably bad. 4. Call. 5. Fold mostly, but sometimes raise to 3 or 4 BB. Say if it's clubs I'd raise, fold others. 6. Raise to 5BB. 7. Call, but might raise to 6 or 7 BB. 8. Call first hand at a table, but I'll often 3 bet this once I've got comfortable. Readless I don't think I ever fold.
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#28
01-21-2007, 04:15 PM
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Re: Discussion: Common preflop situations
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Hand #1: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO raises to $2, Button calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> [/ QUOTE ] Re-raise to $8 [ QUOTE ] Hand #2: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> [/ QUOTE ] Call 70%, fold 30% [ QUOTE ] Hand #3: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO raises to $2, 2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> [/ QUOTE ] Re-raise to $8 [ QUOTE ] Hand #4: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG raises to $2, folds around, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> [/ QUOTE ] Call [ QUOTE ] Hand #5: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="red"> Hero? </font> [/ QUOTE ] Raise 50%, fold 50% pqyite[Hand #6: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 1 fold, MP calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> [/ QUOTE ] Raise to $2 [ QUOTE ] Hand #7: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> [/ QUOTE ] Raise to $3 [ QUOTE ] Hand #8: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> [/ QUOTE ] Call
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#29
01-21-2007, 04:51 PM
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Re: Discussion: Common preflop situations
Grunching...
Hand #1: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO raises to $2, Button calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Raises... to 8.50 Hand #2: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Raise if CO will fold, call if CO or BB will go too far. Readless, I'll try raising to see what happens. Hand #3: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO raises to $2, 2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Readless, I fold. I hate folding here and will look for any excuse to call or reraise. Hand #4: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG raises to $2, folds around, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Almost always a call. If I know UTG is not positionally aware, and can fold, I'll raise, but that's a pretty rare combination. Hand #5: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Raises 2 Hand #6: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 1 fold, MP calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Raises. 2.40 Hand #7: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> I hate this hand, but can't keep from calling at least some of the time. Hand #8: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> yum yum. calls in position.
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#30
01-21-2007, 04:57 PM
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Re: Discussion: Common preflop situations
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A couple of common preflop situations. If you say raise, include also how much to raise to. For all hands, assume: 50NL, 6 players 100bb stacks No reads Hand #1: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO raises to $2, Button calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hand #2: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hand #3: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO raises to $2, 2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hand #4: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG raises to $2, folds around, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hand #5: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hand #6: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 1 fold, MP calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hand #7: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hand #8: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> [/ QUOTE ] #1=Raise to $10 #2=Open complete #3= 3bet to $8 #4=Call #5=Fold (raising is a close second) #6=Raise to $2.25 #7=Raise to $3 #8=Call These are all my default plays.
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