AA Deep vs 2p2er

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did he have 66?

[zaphod]

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Gorilla Boy -

Do you have anymore context for the hand?
How long have your been playing short-handed?
Have you and the villain been tangling?
How does the villain regard you?
Has anyone 4-bet preflop, yet?

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It was short-handed for a few rounds before this.
We were staying out of each others way because there was a huge fish at the table, this was the first time anyone 4-bet. I was 3-betting the fish a lot and playing some big pot with him light, so I was probably seen as TAG, maybe a bit crazy.

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Sounds like a good reason to 4 bet here.

[KRANTZ]

as stack sizes increase, the value of one pair goes down, dramatically. 4-bet this >90% of the time.

[KRANTZ]

ESPECIALLY against this particular villain

[Paul Thomson]

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as stack sizes increase, the value of one pair goes down, dramatically. 4-bet this >90% of the time.

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How does 4-betting help this? Because he'll fold his hand a large percentage of the time?

IMO, 4-betting just defines our hand and makes a big pot that is harder to get away from with our overpair.

Plus if we do hit our set, we're not going to get any action from any other hand, other than the unlikely lower set.

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as stack sizes increase, the value of one pair goes down, dramatically. 4-bet this >90% of the time.

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How does 4-betting help this? Because he'll fold his hand a large percentage of the time?

IMO, 4-betting just defines our hand and makes a big pot that is harder to get away from with our overpair.

Plus if we do hit our set, we're not going to get any action from any other hand, other than the unlikely lower set.

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reduces implied odds

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[Paul Thomson]

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as stack sizes increase, the value of one pair goes down, dramatically. 4-bet this >90% of the time.

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How does 4-betting help this? Because he'll fold his hand a large percentage of the time?

IMO, 4-betting just defines our hand and makes a big pot that is harder to get away from with our overpair.

Plus if we do hit our set, we're not going to get any action from any other hand, other than the unlikely lower set.

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reduces implied odds

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duh... that was easy. I just didn't take the time to do the basic math.

i thought we were so deep that he'd always be getting the odds to hit his set.

[KRANTZ]

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as stack sizes increase, the value of one pair goes down, dramatically. 4-bet this >90% of the time.

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How does 4-betting help this? Because he'll fold his hand a large percentage of the time?

IMO, 4-betting just defines our hand and makes a big pot that is harder to get away from with our overpair.

Plus if we do hit our set, we're not going to get any action from any other hand, other than the unlikely lower set.

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it cuts off implied odds. also, his 3-betting range is so WIDE that hero should be 4-betting a variety of the hands that he opens with - not just AA.

[Paul Thomson]

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as stack sizes increase, the value of one pair goes down, dramatically. 4-bet this >90% of the time.

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How does 4-betting help this? Because he'll fold his hand a large percentage of the time?

IMO, 4-betting just defines our hand and makes a big pot that is harder to get away from with our overpair.

Plus if we do hit our set, we're not going to get any action from any other hand, other than the unlikely lower set.

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it cuts off implied odds. also, his 3-betting range is so WIDE that hero should be 4-betting a variety of the hands that he opens with - not just AA.

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yeah, i didn't pay good enough intentions to the ratio of stack sizes to the 4-bet.

[viciouspenguin]

you should have posted about postflop. there's something wrong if i flopped a boat and then stacked your UI AA for 300bb+. did you really think i had something worse than AA?

preflop you should 4bet to 400-500 or so