Another edition of "You be the floor"

[RegBarclay]

First let me say that at my casino we have a rule that players may not show their cards to anyone who was dealt in for the current hand. If they do so they are limited to passive play only (meaning they can only check and call but no longer bet or raise).
This rule does not apply here as according to the OP he showed the hand to his friend after the all in bet, but I think it is a good rule to have and since enforcing it there have been far less calls for the floor.

Another rule of ours is that a player who opens his cards when facing a bet or raise may have his hand ruled dead. Up until today I have always ruled a hand dead if it was a pot or no limit game and the player was facing a large bet. So this would be the point where the hand ends for me (if I am called to the table at that moment).

As it went down I would award the pot to the quads and give the player who miscalled the hand during play a strong warning and remove him from this game. The regular who showed his cards will have a private talk with me during which I explain to him how lucky he got and warn him never to show his cards during play again. The player who opened his cards will not get warned never to do it again as at this point he is probaly calling me all sorts of names and being escorted out by security.

Regards,
RegBarclay

[fish43]

The player with 88 should have invoked the "show one show all" rule when Q7 showed his hand to his buddy.

[RR]

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The player with 88 should have invoked the "show one show all" rule when Q7 showed his hand to his buddy.

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When it is shown to someone out of the hand you can use "show one show all" to see it after the action is complete.

[steamboatin]

I show both of these gentlemen the door. You can't let angle shooters mess up your game. Putting these two idiots on the road sends a clear message to every potential angle shooter in the room.

You probably let them back in the next day but the message will be crystal clear.

[Rottersod]

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Who called the floor? If the guy with pocket 8s doesn't like the shenanigans, he oughta call the floor immediately rather than wait to see if we wins.

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Sir. I must object. You cannot have the Warren Harding handle and his avatar and use the word "shenanigans".

[NevadaKaz]

88 opened himself up to being 'angle shot' (not sure I believe he was angle shot).

If he does not expose his 88, the 'friend' does not make his comment.

If the room does not have a rule forbidding the showing of a hand to a non active player, the quads guy has done nothing wrong.

88 is a fool for callin, irregards of the friends comment.

If somebody else at the table had commented to 88, after he exposes his 88, "you can't call 2000 without the 7" , would quad 7's have been compensated ? Heck no !!


Ship the money to quads, warn all 3 about there behaviour and deal the next hand !!

[tminus]

dealer rakes and the regular meets the other two in the parking lot with a tire iron

[Teetster]

How can he call with just 88 on that board anyways? You have to put the dude on an overpair (QQ maybe) or having the case 7. Stupid if he did actually call.

Anyways, if I was floor and called in you have to award the pot to the quads. As far as I know you cannot expose cards prior to action being ended so the 88 hand should be dead at that point. At least thats what I've seen done in the past. The action of the "friend" after the 88 was exposed isn't any better but it doesn't matter because 88's hand should be dead at that point.

[ScottHoward]

i want to know what the decision was?
normally i would be rooting for the worst possible outcome for the two pals who conned the 88 guy, but since 88 guy thought he was so awesome cool that he could flip his hand to get a read (before any other angle shots were attempted), i hope he lost his 2k.

[Bulldog]

Who was the floor person who made the ruling?

What was the ruling?