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McGwire furor should be entertaining. [/ QUOTE ] [censored] McGwire, one of the most overrated POS ever in the History of baseball, AND A USER. all I am saying. |
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#12
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DiSarcina had 28 career HRs and a career .258 BA, made one All-Star team, batted over .300 once and over .260 twice. Why was he even on the ballot? [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 3. Eligible Candidates — Candidates to be eligible must meet the following requirements: 1. A baseball player must have been active as a player in the Major Leagues at some time during a period beginning twenty (20) years before and ending five (5) years prior to election. 2. Player must have played in each of ten (10) Major League championship seasons, some part of which must have been within the period described in 3 (A). 3. Player shall have ceased to be an active player in the Major Leagues at least five (5) calendar years preceding the election but may be otherwise connected with baseball. 4. In case of the death of an active player or a player who has been retired for less than five (5) full years, a candidate who is otherwise eligible shall be eligible in the next regular election held at least six (6) months after the date of death or after the end of the five (5) year period, whichever occurs first. 5. Any player on Baseball's ineligible list shall not be an eligible candidate. [/ QUOTE ] link |
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#13
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Look at Gagne's stats as a starter befroe he went to the pen, or better still, look at the collection of 40 save Reds (Williamson, Graves) who were mediocre at best when starting the game versus finishing it. [/ QUOTE ] 2 sub-par seasons does not define a career. who's to say he would have found his groove as a SP? Barry Bonds would be a horrible catcher, but is a HOF OF. like it or not, the closer is now as valid a position on the team as a starter. whether or not that's a good thing is debateable, but it's not gonna change anytime soon. |
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4. In case of the death of an active player or a player who has been retired for less than five (5) full years, a candidate who is otherwise eligible shall be eligible in the next regular election held at least six (6) months after the date of death or after the end of the five (5) year period, whichever occurs first. [/ QUOTE ] so if you die you skip the waiting period? am i reading that correctly? huh. go figure. |
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#15
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Yes, Jobe originated the procedure. Andrews perfected it.
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I can see strong arguments for Lee Smith and up.
They need to get 75% of the votes right? Years down the road those guys might get in. Isn't Lee Smith the all-time saves leader? lol. How is he not in? |
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#17
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[ QUOTE ] web page Candidate Votes % of Votes Bruce Sutter 400 76.9 Jim Rice 337 64.8 Rich Gossage 336 64.6 Andre Dawson 317 61.0 Bert Blyleven 277 53.3 Lee Smith 234 45.0 Jack Morris 214 41.2 Tommy John 154 29.6 Steve Garvey 135 26.0 Alan Trammell 92 17.7 Dave Parker 76 14.4 Dave Concepcion 65 12.5 Don Mattingly 64 12.3 Orel Hershiser 58 11.2 Dale Murphy 56 10.8 Albert Belle 40 7.7 Will Clark 23 4.4 Dwight Gooden 17 3.3 Willie McGee 12 2.3 Hal Morris 5 1.0 Ozzie Guillen 5 1.0 Gary Gaetti 4 0.8 John Wetteland 4 0.8 Rick Aguilera 3 0.6 Doug Jones 2 0.4 Greg Jefferies 2 0.4 Walt Weiss 1 0.2 Gary DiSarcina 0 0.0 Alex Fernandez 0 0.0 ozzie gullien lol. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know what's worse, Walt Weiss getting 1 vote or Gary DiSarcina being on the ballot at all. DiSarcina had 28 career HRs and a career .258 BA, made one All-Star team, batted over .300 once and over .260 twice. Why was he even on the ballot? [/ QUOTE ] He has a cool award named after him though. |
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#18
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] web page Candidate Votes % of Votes Walt Weiss 1 0.2 Gary DiSarcina 0 0.0 Alex Fernandez 0 0.0 ozzie gullien lol. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know what's worse, Walt Weiss getting 1 vote or Gary DiSarcina being on the ballot at all. DiSarcina had 28 career HRs and a career .258 BA, made one All-Star team, batted over .300 once and over .260 twice. Why was he even on the ballot? [/ QUOTE ] He has a cool award named after him though. [/ QUOTE ] DiSarcina should be the last guy not wanting to draw a walk. Geez. |
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so if you die you skip the waiting period? am i reading that correctly? huh. go figure. [/ QUOTE ] this is the 1973 "Roberto Clemente" amendment |
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#20
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I have to wonder what the mentality of some of the voters is for voting for anyone who's not in the top 5-10. Surely the guy who voted for Walk Weiss does not believe that he belongs in the HOF...so what's the motivation for voting for guys like him?
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