WCOOP AKo 3-bet utg and get pushed back, your play? - Page 2

Exitonly · #11 10-01-2007, 05:19 PM

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I 3-bet light and only did that with QQ/KK/AKs/AA.

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LearnedfromTV · #12 10-01-2007, 05:25 PM

With 30bb you have to either flat call the initial raise or 3bet/call. Especially with his 3.6x raise.

ASPoker8 · #13 10-01-2007, 05:45 PM

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With 30bb you have to either flat call the initial raise or 3bet/call. Especially with his 3.6x raise.

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I agree.. In order from best -> worst

Call
3bet/call
Fold
3bet/fold

Not sure if 3bet/folding is -EV, but it probably is.

mlagoo · #14 10-01-2007, 05:48 PM

i think 3bet/calling is better than calling. you get him to fold a lot of hands that he should call/shove with when you 3bet, and you fold the best hand a lot on the flop when you just call.

g-p · #15 10-01-2007, 05:58 PM

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i think 3bet/calling is better than calling. you get him to fold a lot of hands that he should call/shove with when you 3bet, and you fold the best hand a lot on the flop when you just call.

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i agree with this in general, with one exception. if u have chronic squeezer behind you then call>>>3 bet/call, right?

ASPoker8 · #16 10-01-2007, 06:00 PM

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i think 3bet/calling is better than calling. you get him to fold a lot of hands that he should call/shove with when you 3bet, and you fold the best hand a lot on the flop when you just call.

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i agree with this in general, with one exception. if u have chronic squeezer behind you then call>>>3 bet/call, right?

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gp, yes def

with how the tournament was playing (aggressive), thats why I said call > 3bc

I wasn't paying too much attention though and could easily be wrong about the overally aggression

mlagoo · #17 10-01-2007, 06:06 PM

yeah but people arent real into squeezing utg raises at 9handed tables in my experience

ASPoker8 · #18 10-01-2007, 06:09 PM

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yeah but people arent real into squeezing utg raises at 9handed tables in my experience

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gobboboy · #19 10-01-2007, 06:23 PM

3bet, call a shove. People don't squeeze nearly as much as you think they do, adam.

NYWalker · #20 10-01-2007, 06:49 PM

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he probably thinks the table is pushing him around so stick the money in

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Due to stacksize, pf calling and pf shoving are both bad.

I'm posting the last 20 hands in pokerXfactor, please pay attention to hand 685 see how villain played AKo pf, also see his raising size, he raises 90K and 80K, the last hand he raises 80K with AQo.

Hand History Analyzer Version: http://www.pokerxfactor.com/HA87355/...01_183353/4167