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#11
02-28-2006, 02:04 PM
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Re: 30/60 QTs
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With you playing like that, I can see why the game was good. [/ QUOTE ] Comments like this are completely unnecessary. Dean. obviously put a lot of thought into the hand. I suggest trying to do that too as you might find it interesting. Finally, I was NOT Hero in this hand. 
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#13
02-28-2006, 02:16 PM
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Re: 30/60 QTs
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[ QUOTE ] With him playing like that, I can see why the game was good. [/ QUOTE ] Comments like this are completely unnecessary. Dean. obviously put a lot of thought into the hand. I suggest trying to do that too. Finally, I was NOT Hero in this hand. [/ QUOTE ] FMP Come on.. It seems to me that most of the thinking done here was of the "wishful" kind.
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#15
02-28-2006, 04:32 PM
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Re: 30/60 QTs
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[ QUOTE ] So you put him on a lower flush draw? That he's 3-betting on the turn with a double paired board? [/ QUOTE ] I suspect Jason's thinking was more along the lines i) He never checks this flop with a J or 4 ii) Therefore he is just bluffing because the pot seems his to steal iii) Therefore I will resteal it. If he gets suspicious and calls down with Ace or King high, I have lots of outs. iv) Oh he 3 bet me. Ah, he knows that I know he doesn't have a J or 4. So he knows I could be doing this lite. Further, he must suspect I would have bet flop or turn with a Jack or 4, so he must highly suspect I am bluffing, and is rebluffing. v) I have lots of outs if I am behind (as I know he doesnt have a full house). Therefore I call. vi) Well, he didn't get rid of me on the turn. Presuming my read is correct that he doesn't have a full house, what would he bet the river with? He wouldn't do it with Ace high as he would expect all worse hands to fold, and better ones to call. I can't see him plating 55-TT this way, as he would have bet the flop with them, and if for some reason he didn't he would likely have just called down my c/r since he has a hand that beats a bluff. vii) So really he either has a King, a luckily river 5, or I am good. viii) Given all the possibilities, and the size of the pot, I am good here enough for calling to be + EV. iv) Therefore, I call. [/ QUOTE ] This analysis rests on the notion that the thinking LAG (who didn't raise PF) who didn't take a stab at a small pot in position on the flop is now willing to bluff three times on the big bet streets. It seems to me that villain is value betting the river (or at least bluffing with the best hand) so much of the time that calling here can't be correct.
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#17
02-28-2006, 05:36 PM
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Re: 30/60 QTs
jason,
This is such a ridiculous parlay that it is 100% a horrible way to play the hand. I understand Dean.'s justification. It's just not happening enough. Whoever hero was, tried to think a bit too much into this one.
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#19
02-28-2006, 08:39 PM
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Re: 30/60 QTs
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so you were the villain??? [/ QUOTE ] No. [ QUOTE ] What did villain have quad 4's ? [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] oops maybe Im used to party 2/4 [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] No.
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#20
02-28-2006, 09:14 PM
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Re: 30/60 QTs
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[ QUOTE ] so you were the villain??? [/ QUOTE ] No. [/ QUOTE ] Oh. [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What did villain have quad 4's ? [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] oops maybe Im used to party 2/4 [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] No. [/ QUOTE ] Hey I am used to 2/4, ok I have played a little 5/10 [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] ehm, well anyway, what did he have ?
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