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jason_t 02-28-2006 06:17 AM

30/60 QTs
 
In an amazing live Bellagio 30/60 game, Hero limps UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Three more limpers to a smart, thinking LAG who limps otb. The SB completes and the BB checks.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Checked around.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Checked to the Button who bets, SB folds, BB folds, Hero check/raises, folded to Button who 3-bets, Hero calls.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Check, bet, call.

Nate tha\\\' Great 02-28-2006 06:28 AM

Re: 30/60 QTs
 
If this is the right way to play the hand, I've really got to get back out to Bellagio. I could use a vactation, besides.

DcifrThs 02-28-2006 06:30 AM

Re: 30/60 QTs
 
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If this is the right way to play the hand, I've really got to get back out to Bellagio. I could use a vactation, besides.

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PartyGirlUK 02-28-2006 07:21 AM

Re: 30/60 QTs
 
Cap turn.

PoBoy321 02-28-2006 08:46 AM

Re: 30/60 QTs
 
So you put him on a lower flush draw? That he's 3-betting on the turn with a double paired board?

tessarji 02-28-2006 10:12 AM

Re: 30/60 QTs
 
What?

edit: No, really... What?

PartyGirlUK 02-28-2006 10:25 AM

Re: 30/60 QTs
 
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So you put him on a lower flush draw? That he's 3-betting on the turn with a double paired board?

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I suspect Jason's thinking was more along the lines

i) He never checks this flop with a J or 4
ii) Therefore he is just bluffing because the pot seems his to steal
iii) Therefore I will resteal it. If he gets suspicious and calls down with Ace or King high, I have lots of outs.
iv) Oh he 3 bet me. Ah, he knows that I know he doesn't have a J or 4. So he knows I could be doing this lite. Further, he must suspect I would have bet flop or turn with a Jack or 4, so he must highly suspect I am bluffing, and is rebluffing.
v) I have lots of outs if I am behind (as I know he doesnt have a full house). Therefore I call.
vi) Well, he didn't get rid of me on the turn. Presuming my read is correct that he doesn't have a full house, what would he bet the river with? He wouldn't do it with Ace high as he would expect all worse hands to fold, and better ones to call. I can't see him plating 55-TT this way, as he would have bet the flop with them, and if for some reason he didn't he would likely have just called down my c/r since he has a hand that beats a bluff.
vii) So really he either has a King, a luckily river 5, or I am good.
viii) Given all the possibilities, and the size of the pot, I am good here enough for calling to be + EV.
iv) Therefore, I call.

Barry 02-28-2006 11:12 AM

Re: 30/60 QTs
 
With you playing like that, I can see why the game was good.

durron597 02-28-2006 11:22 AM

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vii) So really he either has a King, a luckily river 5, or I am good.

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Does he fold King high often enough to check-raise river?

JeffO 02-28-2006 11:45 AM

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With you playing like that, I can see why the game was good.

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